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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Dredge
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Message 901 of 1311 (815313)
07-18-2017 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 861 by RAZD
07-17-2017 6:38 AM


Re: Interesting question...
RAZD writes:
A theory is a tested hypothesis.
A theory also generates hypotheses, like evolution predicts a common ancestor, so that becomes a hypothesis that needs to be tested.
It's my understanding that if there is enough evidence to support a hypothesis, it gets promoted to a theory. So since the hypothesis of common descent is supposedly supported by "mountains of evidence" provided by the fossil record, embryology, genetics, comparative anatomy, nested hierarchies ... blah, blah, blah, why it is not promoted to the status of "theory". All evolutionary biologists consider common descent to an irrefutable fact, so why it's lowly status as a hypothesis still? Dredge is confused.

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Dredge
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Message 902 of 1311 (815314)
07-18-2017 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 892 by Pressie
07-18-2017 8:35 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Pressie writes:
I don't know the general theory of evolution.
The general theory of evolution was explained to me on an atheist site I was once on (they loved me). It is simply the theory that all present life forms evolved from much simpler forms of life. Versions of this theory have been around for thousands of years. It was a superstitious belief not based on any scientific evidence. Darwinism is a "scientific" attempt to provide a mechanism for how such an evolutionary process might work. But it's still superstition ... scientifically-flavoured superstition.
As King Solomon said, "There is nothing new under the Sun."

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Dredge
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Message 903 of 1311 (815315)
07-18-2017 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 893 by New Cat's Eye
07-18-2017 8:43 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
What about the first necessary evolution - that of inanimate matter evolving into the first living organism? Abiogenesis requires a shipload of faith, I'd say.

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Dredge
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Message 904 of 1311 (815316)
07-18-2017 11:02 PM
Reply to: Message 896 by jar
07-18-2017 10:57 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
jar writes:
Utter bullshit. Complete and utter stupid dishonest bullshit.
I think you are confusing the doctrines of Dredge with the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses.
There is no equivalence between science and religion and to make such an assertion is simply a dishonest unsupported assertion.
I didn't say there is an equivalence between science and religion. For starters, Darwinism isn't science ... it's pseudo-science. Darwinism is a cult, and there are similarities between any cult and religion.
Since you are in the cult, you can't see pass it. But to someone who is outside the cult looking in, the similarities to religion are obvious.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

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Dredge
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Message 905 of 1311 (815317)
07-18-2017 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 899 by New Cat's Eye
07-18-2017 12:20 PM


Re: Insecticide resistance
NewCats Eye writes:
I am a religious person. I practice theology.
I also accept evolution. That is very different from religious belief.
"I practice theology" - what does that mean?
Millions of years of evolution is incompatible with the Bible. Theistic evolutionists are heretics and the worst theologians ever invented, imo. Their idea of sound theology is laughable and pathetic - ignore Scripture and Christian doctrine and replace it with Scientism. Theistic Darwinists and atheistic Darwinists are actually on the same side and belong to the same cult.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

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Dredge
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Message 906 of 1311 (815319)
07-18-2017 11:25 PM


All primitive cultures came up with creation stories about how life came into existence. Darwinism is simply a creation story invented by atheist culture. The only difference is, it claims to be scientific.

  
Dredge
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Message 907 of 1311 (815320)
07-18-2017 11:28 PM
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07-18-2017 6:04 AM


Re: Black Budgie
Pressie writes:
Really? From the Economist?
Darwinists are so gullible.

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dwise1
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Message 908 of 1311 (815321)
07-18-2017 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 903 by Dredge
07-18-2017 10:49 PM


Re: Insecticide resistance
You never did respond to New Cat's Eye, you lying hypocrite!
Is that the only way you can defend your pitiful god, though lies and deception? Everybody knows your god, the only one who depends on lies and deception: Satan.

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Dredge
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Message 909 of 1311 (815322)
07-18-2017 11:32 PM
Reply to: Message 897 by Taq
07-18-2017 11:19 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Taq writes:
Dredge writes:
Please explain how SIFTER makes use of the theory that all life shares a common ancestor.
"We present a statistical graphical model to infer specific molecular function for unannotated protein sequences using homology. Based on phylogenomic principles, SIFTER (Statistical Inference of Function Through Evolutionary Relationships) accurately predicts molecular function for members of a protein family given a reconciled phylogeny and available function annotations, even when the data are sparse or noisy. "
Page Not Found | PLOS Computational Biology...
Please translate this into English.

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Message 910 of 1311 (815323)
07-18-2017 11:36 PM
Reply to: Message 904 by Dredge
07-18-2017 11:02 PM


Dredging Bullshit.
Yet you have not been able to provide and evidence to support your bullshit.

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dwise1
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Message 911 of 1311 (815324)
07-18-2017 11:39 PM
Reply to: Message 902 by Dredge
07-18-2017 10:44 PM


Re: Interesting question...
The general theory of evolution was explained to me on an atheist site I was once on (they loved me). It is simply the theory that all present life forms evolved from much simpler forms of life. Versions of this theory have been around for thousands of years. It was a superstitious belief not based on any sc
So explain it to us so we can discuss it.

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dwise1
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Message 912 of 1311 (815325)
07-18-2017 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 909 by Dredge
07-18-2017 11:32 PM


Re: Interesting question...
If you need a translation, then you are mentally incapable of discussing it.
From the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, we have the following line (from memory):
This news is for all the higher-developed life-forms of the Galaxy. For the rest of you guys, the secret is to keep banging the rocks together, guys!
Edited by dwise1, : No reason given.

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Message 913 of 1311 (815326)
07-19-2017 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 904 by Dredge
07-18-2017 11:02 PM


Re: Insecticide resistance
I think you are confusing the doctrines of Dredge with the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Uh, excuse me, but just what the fuck are you talking about? That you are a god???
Well then fuck you very much you fucking stupid god! Your doctrines are all complete bullshit!!!
Fuck your stupid bullshit.

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CRR
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Message 914 of 1311 (815329)
07-19-2017 6:07 AM
Reply to: Message 892 by Pressie
07-18-2017 8:35 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Pressie writes:
I don't know the general theory of evolution. It's something foreign to me.
I think that is a reference to;
quote:
There is a theory which states that many living animals can be observed over the course of time to undergo changes so that new species are formed. This can be called the ‘Special Theory of Evolution’ and can be demonstrated in certain cases by experiments. On the other hand there is the theory that all the living forms in the world have arisen from a single source which itself came from an inorganic form. This theory can be called the ‘General Theory of Evolution’ and the evidence that supports it is not sufficiently strong to allow us to consider it as anything more than a working hypothesis.
Kerkut, G.A. (1927—2004), Implications of Evolution, Pergamon, Oxford, UK, p. 157, 1960
Further discussion on this probably belongs in the thread How do you define the Theory of Evolution?

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Message 915 of 1311 (815332)
07-19-2017 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 905 by Dredge
07-18-2017 11:17 PM


Re: Insecticide resistance
Theistic evolutionists are heretics and the worst theologians ever invented, imo. Their idea of sound theology is laughable and pathetic - ignore Scripture and Christian doctrine and replace it with Scientism. Theistic Darwinists and atheistic Darwinists are actually on the same side and belong to the same cult.
You sound like an idiot.
For your sake, I hope you're not being honest.
But either way, you are not worth my time.
Good day, sir.

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