EvC Forum: Links for the Creation/Evolution Controversy (not a debate topic)

Tangle writes:

For some reason believers need to make it a really complicated thing invoving all sort of pseudo-philosophical bunk like this. Accept it.

Accept what?

I dont think you are addressing the philosophical argument behind this article.

Perhaps many believers do attempt to make it complicated, but you are dismissing a concept without providing any reason other than the simple idea that you don't embrace or accept it. Do you have any idea of the basic argument in this piece?

First, you cannot simply make the argument that you are merely ignoring something with no evidence. You are ignoring a philosophical assertion without providing a counter-philosophy.

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To speak of God properlyin a way, that is, consonant with the teachings of orthodox Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Sikhism, Vedantic and Bhaktic Hinduism, Bah’, much of antique paganism, and so forthis to speak of the one infinite ground of all that is: eternal, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, uncreated, uncaused, perfectly transcendent of all things and for that very reason absolutely immanent to all things.

God so understood is neither some particular thing posed over against the created universe, in addition to it, nor is he the universe itself. He is not a being, at least not in the way that a tree, a clock, or a god is; he is not one more object in the inventory of things that are. He is the infinite wellspring of all that is, in whom all things live and move and have their being.

Do you believe that there is no infinite wellspring of all that is, in whom all things are quite literally defined? Of course, you do...you believe in human wisdom and assemblage of evidence and scientific methodology. All that the article is saying is that God=Reality. Would you be prepared to defend the idea that consciousness=reality, or would you argue only that matter and the behavior of matter (as observed through consciousness) = reality?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
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