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Message 12 of 195 (816926)
08-13-2017 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by ringo
08-13-2017 3:20 PM


Freedom of Speech vs Hate Speech
Authorities should only be able to deal with individuals who break the law; they should not be able to interfere with freedom of assembly.
What are the current laws regarding the distinction?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 40 of 195 (817098)
08-15-2017 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by ringo
08-15-2017 12:38 PM


Tit For Tat
Even if ideas inspire racial hatred, you shouldn't be able to prosecute everybody who expresses those ideas. You might as well prosecute the publishers who are still printing Mein Kampf.
Or you may as well prosecute God if he allegedly wrote the Bible.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 100 of 195 (817367)
08-17-2017 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Faith
08-16-2017 9:56 PM


Re: who did what?
I actually read your link and continued to read...even though it came from Breitbart.com. It has always been my goal to read how everyone thinks---not simply the ones whom I usually agree with. Granted, i dont hold much stock in Alex Jones...he is simply a business, in my mind. Horowitz, however, seems more intelligent. A couple of statements stood out to me from the article:
  • What Unite the Right actually demonstrated was that the assortment of neo-Nazis, pro-Confederates and assorted yahoos gathered under the banner of the Alt-Right is actually a negligible group. This was a national show of strength that actually attracted only a few hundred people. Compare that to the tens of the thousands who can readily be marshaled by two violent groups of the left — Black Lives Matter and Antifa — and you get an idea of how marginal white supremacists are to America’s political and cultural life.~Breitbart
    It seems like a valid point...except that the guy driving the car that killed someone was a disenfranchised young white guy. Not a good thing.
  • In short, there were two demonstrations in Charlottesville - a legal protest by Unite the Right and one protest by the vigilantes of Antifa and Black Lives Matter. Who started the fight is really immaterial. Both sides were prepared for violence because these conflicts are already a pattern of our deteriorating civic life. Once the two sides had gathered in the same place, the violence was totally predictable. ~Breitbart
    Trump was actually correct in saying that both sides were culpable. (Probably encouraged by Steve Bannon) Public pressure aimed at vilifying white privilege forced him to denounce his own base support. Totally understandable in context. However....
  • The ideology that drives the left and divides our country is identity politics — the idea that the world consists of two groups — people of color who are guiltless and oppressed, and white people who are guilty and oppressors. This is the real race war. Its noxious themes inform the mindless, hysterical hatred for President Trump, and the equally mindless support for racist mobs like Black Lives Matter and Antifa. It is a war from which no good can come. But it won’t be stopped unless enough people have the courage to stand up and name it for what it is.~Breitbart
    I actually see some wisdom in that statement. Both sides are at fault.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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