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NosyNed
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Message 46 of 67 (81848)
01-31-2004 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Buzsaw
01-31-2004 4:35 PM


. Revelation 11 where it is given these two men to cause it not to rain upon earth for three and a half years as they see fit. This implies heat.
And it has been pointed out to you before that your idea that global warming means less rain is wrong. Therefore you have made it clear that this prediction is wrong too.
In addtion, it isn't "great heat" or scorched we are worried about. Clearly the global warming climate model predictions are opposed to what your predictions say.

Common sense isn't

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Buzsaw
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Message 47 of 67 (81851)
01-31-2004 5:12 PM
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01-31-2004 4:07 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
I would say you aren't alone. Sounds a lot like the prophecies of Gordon-Michael Scallion. You might want to do a search for his stuff. Just from what I remember from a recent History Channel documentary, he envisions massive earthquakes as well as oceans covering about a third of the current land mass. You have to love the Hist Chann, entertaining stuff.
Hi LM. Note the common demoninator of these with the site Mac brought up of mine. Common denominator: Earthquakes. Notice the differences though. Gordon-Michael Scallion has the oceans overflowing the land. The Biblical implication I get is the reverse: The land prevails, with the ocean waters evaporating into the atmosphere and stratosphere. This evaporation of the ocean waters precipitates the earthquakes and causes them, the weight of the water being lifted and the thin underocean earth crusts warping back up to relatively level the surface of the earth, restoring the likely topography of planet earth to what it was before the flood with the super climate and all.

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Coragyps
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Message 48 of 67 (81852)
01-31-2004 5:28 PM
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01-31-2004 5:12 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
to what it was before the flood with the super climate and all.
Yeah, "super climate," alright. Superheated. How many friggin' times have we been over this same tired old crap on this board, Buz? Ten? Or more?

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Brian
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Message 49 of 67 (81853)
01-31-2004 5:33 PM
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01-31-2004 5:28 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
You can bet there will be another ten as well!

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Buzsaw
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Message 50 of 67 (81854)
01-31-2004 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by NosyNed
01-31-2004 5:00 PM


And it has been pointed out to you before that your idea that global warming means less rain is wrong. Therefore you have made it clear that this prediction is wrong too.
In addtion, it isn't "great heat" or scorched we are worried about. Clearly the global warming climate model predictions are opposed to what your predictions say.
.........And with all due respect, Ned, it has been pointed out to you before that your idea of what is wrong might be wrong. Therefore, the Biblical prophecies may be right.
Global warming, coupled with lack of prevailing winds, as also predicted in the Bible may debunk present scientific understanding of the effects of global warming, for without adequate prevailing wind patterns, inadequate rain ensues. The planet's wizzards have yet to experience what is emerging upon earth, as foretold by the Biblical prophets of old.

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PaulK
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Message 51 of 67 (81855)
01-31-2004 5:52 PM
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01-31-2004 4:28 PM


If you read Romans 1 you will see that it is NOT homosexuality that has got God upset. In fact it states that He is *punishing* people by turning them to homosexuality. "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections..." And of course it isn't presented as being about some distant future event - it's about people alive at the time of writing.
If God is that upset at homosexuals then why would He be making more of them ?

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Buzsaw
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Message 52 of 67 (81856)
01-31-2004 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Coragyps
01-31-2004 5:28 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
Yeah, "super climate," alright. Superheated. How many friggin' times have we been over this same tired old crap on this board, Buz? Ten? Or more?
........And how many times have you people soundly debunked this? A big fat zero. Get use to it. The climatic trend is with the Bible. Neither global warming or increased climatic change is going away or diminishing. You yunguns haven't eye witnessed the change over the last 68 years as I have. Global disastrous weather phenomena has escalated manyfold over these three scores plus of years. To you yute, it's just gradual enough so as to give you the false idea that it's the norm. The secularistic media and academia certainly is not going to apprise you of anything to support the Bible, is it?

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Buzsaw
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Message 53 of 67 (81859)
01-31-2004 6:08 PM
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01-31-2004 5:52 PM


If you read Romans 1 you will see that it is NOT homosexuality that has got God upset. In fact it states that He is *punishing* people by turning them to homosexuality. "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections..." And of course it isn't presented as being about some distant future event - it's about people alive at the time of writing.
If God is that upset at homosexuals then why would He be making more of them ?
You know, Paul, I once thought you were quite intelligent, but now I wonder. I guess it's not that you're not intelligent, but not wise in judgement. Take off your bias cap and put on your thinking cap before reading. Then reread. Notice that it says "God gave them up to vile affections." Whose affections? Theirs, not Gods. "God will not always strive with man" says the Bible. He strives so long with mankind's stupidity and finally gives them up to THEIR OWN VILE AFFECTIONS." Why? Because they're free agents with a free will, not robots. He doesn't force anybody to do what's right. There comes a time when he gives up on persuasion and lets them go to "hell in a handbasked" as they are intent and bent upon doing, in spite of all he does to disuade them by the repeated warnings his preachers preach. How are these preachers treated? With disdain and ridicule, as you all know. What else do you want God to do? Force you against your own will? Certainly not. Wise up, man!!

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Coragyps
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Message 54 of 67 (81864)
01-31-2004 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Buzsaw
01-31-2004 5:57 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
You yunguns haven't eye witnessed the change over the last 68 years as I have. Global disastrous weather phenomena has escalated manyfold over these three scores plus of years.
I'm just a dozen years behind you, Buz. And even with that twelve on me, I don't think you remember the Dust Bowl too well.
Show me the math, Buz. Evaporate only 33 feet = 10 meters of our present oceans into the atmosphere. Calculate the resulting atmospheric pressure. Look up, from that pressure, the appropriate temperature in a handbook like the CRC or Lang's - at your library.
And then shut up about this comfortable climate bullshit.

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sidelined
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Message 55 of 67 (81866)
01-31-2004 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Buzsaw
01-31-2004 5:57 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
buzsaw
Don't feel too bad about this since you were too young to remember but The Little Ice Age reeked havoc with agricultural economies and caused the death of millions and even the devastation of the Vikings.
It lasted for 1250 years {600 -1850}.
I would not be so concerned about this being the end of the world since it will take a lot more to match the levels achieved during these centuries.
For more information you may check out this web page to see the evidence presented. http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia/
Humans can be so arrogant with their short term view of things don't you agree?

'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.'
(Daniel Patrick Moynihan)

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Buzsaw
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Message 56 of 67 (81869)
01-31-2004 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Coragyps
01-31-2004 6:33 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
I'm just a dozen years behind you, Buz. And even with that twelve on me, I don't think you remember the Dust Bowl too well.
Show me the math, Buz. Evaporate only 33 feet = 10 meters of our present oceans into the atmosphere. Calculate the resulting atmospheric pressure. Look up, from that pressure, the appropriate temperature in a handbook like the CRC or Lang's - at your library.
I was born in the Northern edge of the dust bowl in the 30's, so, unlike you, I remember it as an eye witness. There's always been weather problems and earthquakes here and there. I'm talking frequency. The various catastrophic stuff is more varied, devastating and rapid fire in frequency. The ozone effect, smog effect, radiation, etc. Are you aware of the extent Chernoble alone had on nearly the whole planet, and particularly those nations down the prevailing winds? A little change in average temps goes a long ways and we ain't seen nuttin yet.
And then shut up about this comfortable climate bullshit.
Hey, don't get sore. At least I'm upbeat about the not too distant future.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

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sidelined
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Message 57 of 67 (81872)
01-31-2004 7:29 PM
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01-31-2004 7:09 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
buzsaw
Are you aware of the extent Chernoble alone had on nearly the whole planet,
I would like to hear what effect it had on,say,Edmonton Alberta.Please explain to us the extent that the nearly the whole world has been affected.

'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.'
(Daniel Patrick Moynihan)

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Nexus
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Message 58 of 67 (81907)
01-31-2004 11:32 PM
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01-31-2004 7:29 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
the end is near, it is futile to resist!!

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sidelined
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Message 59 of 67 (81916)
02-01-2004 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Nexus
01-31-2004 11:32 PM


Re: i'm telling the truth
Nexus
HA!
I am married with 2 teenage daughters the end has long since come and gone.I merely wait patiently for death to claim me and return to me some well earned peace and quiet.If there was a hell it would be populated by teenage girls in various levels of disconnect from their teenage brain and emotionally sensitive.AARRGGHHH!!!!
Life is pleasant ,Death is peaceful, its the transition that's troublesome. Isaac Asimov

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PaulK
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Message 60 of 67 (81936)
02-01-2004 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Buzsaw
01-31-2004 6:08 PM


I suggest that you think about it. Why would they all be homosexuals ?
Do you think that everyone is really homosexual but that God persuades most people not to act on it ? Does that apply to you, yourself ?
And then perhaps you can explain why a prophecy about the distant future uses the PAST TENSE.

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