Evidence of the flood

Wow, the walls are going up already. Plus that's evidence for an ancient Earth and evolution.--Percy

Yes, that is what I am saying. Your belief, the cult of jar is subjective.

LOLThere is no Cult of jar.But if you send money I will try to hum a few bars.The fact remains that there is physical evidence that shows there has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans have existed. That is objective.There is no evidence of either a God or any world-wide flood. That is objective.

No Percy. I do not try to prove creation with science. I've already expressed my subjective belief multiple times, but I will write it one more time just for you. God does not want us to find physical evidence of His existence because John 3:16 The REAL world is part subjective. We cannot live by objective means only for multiple reasons.1. It is impossible
2. Some objectiveness changes over time and knowledge I am not looking for evidence. It found me. The story of the flood is amazing, be it fake or real.

Fine, I am a creationist who does not believe in creation science, fair enough?I don't like labels. Liek I prefer not to be called a Christian. Disciple is better, because I am always learning.

Sure you do. Science is about gathering evidence in support of hypotheses. You titled this thread Evidence of the flood and offered Harvey the Hawk as your evidence. What you *do* try to do is be absurdly contrary and argumentative at every opportunity, which is actually a good strategy for those with no support for their position. The search facility here isn't perfect, but it couldn't find where in this thread you've expressed what you say next about John 3:16: Well that's just daft. John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." It has nothing to do with your point. More irrelevant nonsense. You're arguing that a hawk in a car is evidence for a Biblical myth. It's fake.--Percy

My participation on this thread has been cursory at best, on the level of "strata and fossils" all along. I don't think Riverrat would miss me if I didn't post any more.Strata and fossils. Works a lot better as evidence for the Flood than for your OE and evolution, LOTS better. Ridiculous really, the idea of time periods sandwiched between slabs of rock, physically impossible for it to happen that way-- many of those slabs extend thousands of square miles, flat flat sediments that must have wiped out whatever living things had been there in that "time period" -- which all managed somehow to get smushed down into the sediments, a bit of flora and scattered fauna and no other evidence that such a scenario ever actually existed on that spot -- not to mention the simple absurdity of expecting a time period to have any kind of neat physical demarcations at all, let alone a whole series of them over hundreds of millions of years.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So once again absolutely no model, method, process, procedure or thingamabob to explain how a flood can produce the very real, very objective evidence that exists.

Go find the model, it's been posted many times on threads put up for that purpose.

I searched and it has not been found. Please post a link to the message.If you like, we can go through the issues one at a time.To begin at the beginning, how does your flood sort millions of recurring and repeating layers of fine sediment alternating with coarser sediment?Edited by jar, : appalin grammber

You can say it till the cows come home on the moon, but that doesn't make it real. That is how cognitive dissonance and delusion work. That fakes evidence and creates lies. Oh, I'm persuaded that only a desperate delusional gullible foolish person would give up reason and evidence of reality to believe feel-good fantasy.Enjoy

Another fundamental question: How is it that all of the many different dating methods agree very closely?These are methods which rely on many different phenomena, but they agree very closely.And they show that the Earth is old, and the YEC belief/claim is inaccurate.Unless YECs can show how these dating methods are all wrong, their YEC belief is disproved.

Wait a sec, did you just call me a scientist? Are you accusing me of using the scientific method?There you go, putting words in my mouth. I never offered a hypotheses. I just offered evidence. As I stated earlier, it was because I am tired of hearing the phrase "there is no evidence". There is evidence, you just choose to ignore it based on other evidence.So my position is that you are lying saying that there is no evidence. The end. If you don't have the Holy Spirit, or a Godly understanding of the bible, of course you wouldn't understand. I;ve said it 3 different ways, lets make it 4.You must believe in God by faith.In order for that statement to be true, you cannot use objective evidence to believe in God. That's my hypothesis, based on John 3:16 and many other verses. What does that have to do with the fact that the evidence found me? I wasn't looking for evidence, it just happened, and as I watched it I felt the Holy Spirit telling me this is the way God designed animals.

You can post all you want. I support freedom of speech. I may not agree with you, so I am staying out your sidebar discussions, but you are free to post.

Dear faith and other YECies Explain the consilience of results from multiple different sources and systems of measuring the age of the 14C samples that makes this composite graph ... if you can.Denial is not an explanation.Saying the evidence lies means the whole world is lies and illusion, and - if you believe it was created by god/s - that means the god/s created lies and illusions and not one piece of reality. Everything.Think about it. Think it through.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : .