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Greatest I am
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Message 34 of 86 (819136)
09-06-2017 7:58 PM
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09-06-2017 3:36 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
In our welfare able countries, it is not that big of a deal when there is a safety net there to fall into but if living in a place without social programs, that person will likely starve I he is not fit enough to feed himself.
If people liked to be beggars or on the dole, they would not be trying to get off of the social programs. Right?
To suggest that those who pay the way for others are no more fit than the other is quite insulting to the fit who are footing the bills.
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DL

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Message 36 of 86 (819142)
09-07-2017 6:59 AM
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09-07-2017 6:27 AM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Pressie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA83bI9muk0
This particular author/scholar indicates that the female liberation movements around the world will eventually fail if African women do not get equality first.
He thinks that the equality of women will only progress as fast as the slowest country and at present the slowest countries are thought to be in Africa.
As John Lennon wrote, women are the Niggers of the world and the most Niggers seem to be in Africa.
Apologies if my use of the word Nigger offended you my friend.
No offence was intended.
Regards
DL

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Message 38 of 86 (819144)
09-07-2017 7:22 AM
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09-07-2017 7:14 AM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
That author does get into verifiable data.
If I was an African, I would want to hear what he has to say but suit yourself.
I thought the friend thing would cushion the impact of my use of the Nigger word.
Apologies if using the term friends offended you.
Regards
DL

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Message 40 of 86 (819148)
09-07-2017 7:56 AM
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09-07-2017 7:29 AM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Thanks for this.
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DL

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Message 43 of 86 (819162)
09-07-2017 12:11 PM
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09-07-2017 11:47 AM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Ringo
I disagree on all points.
You must be having a boring day to produce such foolishness.
Equality under the law is not equality of outcome until we die.
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DL

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Message 45 of 86 (819167)
09-07-2017 1:03 PM
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09-07-2017 12:20 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Ringo
Your post that I disagreed with was so lame I did not and do not feel the need to grace it with a response.
IMO.
You did a disservice to all the millions who starve to death yearly as well as telling the less fit, who know that they are not as fit as some, --- which suggests that they are as fit, which indicates that they should not be on whatever social or medical dole they are on and contributing to the tax base as the more fit are.
I did not want to insult you for such cavalier and insulting to victims thinking.
What the hell. Shame on you.
Regards
DL
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Message 47 of 86 (819169)
09-07-2017 1:15 PM
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09-07-2017 1:08 PM


Re: Polite Lets Be
I tried but was pushed and gave an argument.
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DL

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Message 49 of 86 (819175)
09-07-2017 1:45 PM
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09-07-2017 1:17 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSNYToj7yFw
You think your way I will think mine.
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DL

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Message 51 of 86 (819270)
09-08-2017 1:54 PM
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09-08-2017 12:03 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Your last is true, but they can be viewed as a subset of society whose fitness can be measured beside the more fit.
The capability and capasity to give to a society is one of the measures of that individuals fitness. So is the lack of that ability.
If not, show why not.
Regards
DL
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Message 53 of 86 (819322)
09-09-2017 12:22 PM
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09-09-2017 11:48 AM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Ringo
I did not say that tax takers do not contribute at all. I said that they are less fit and contribute less due to having to be tax takers. Or something along that line.
Certainly some of the less fit tax takers contribute, just not as much as the more fit or lucky.
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DL

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Message 55 of 86 (819328)
09-09-2017 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by ringo
09-09-2017 12:28 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
You are asking for subjective judgements of individual cases.
I can only answer if you give the scenario or issue you want me to address.
I gave one fitness metric, that being tax paying v/s tax taking, that a state, if it could talk, would say that the payers are more fit than the takers.
Other metrics could be reproduction, ability to raise children, contributions to science and the arts, the ability to help others.
A short list but that is what comes to mind quickly.
So what metric, if not those, should I be looking at.
Which ones are you looking at that makes you think those I call less fit tax taxers are just as fit as taxpayers?
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DL

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Message 57 of 86 (819333)
09-09-2017 1:16 PM
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09-09-2017 12:54 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Ringo
Seems we are about done if you want to believe you have refuted most of what I put, when you have not.
"No I'm not. I even used the word "objective". I'm asking for objective criteria which you can use to determine whether somebody is "more fit" than somebody else."
Since most issues are subjective, the only objective criteria I can give is death.
The fittest is alive the least fit is dead.
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DL

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Message 59 of 86 (819340)
09-09-2017 6:12 PM
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09-09-2017 1:26 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Maroon.
But even that will be subjective as many of us are color blind.
Regards
DL

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Message 61 of 86 (819399)
09-10-2017 3:37 PM
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09-10-2017 2:07 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
The judgement of fitness is subjective.
The fact that there is a fittest human is objective.
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DL

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Message 63 of 86 (819401)
09-10-2017 3:56 PM
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09-10-2017 3:52 PM


Re: Dumbest We Are?
Via subjective judgement.
How else can one differentiate between contestants?
Regards
DL

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