Revolting middle class. If the rich keep funding war with the lives of the lower clas

Seems we agree on your last.Not on your first in all cases.The needs or good of the many outweigh the needs or good of the few must be judged subjectively but I think, since the conclusion is always for it. that might just be the only objective moral tenet I can think of.Regards
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That is what I just said, yes.Regards
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Eh, not that I can see.How did you get to that from where we were?Show the logic trail. Perhaps I missed something.Regards
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ProtoTypical"An individual is either fit or they are not. They either survive long enough to reproduce or they do not. There is nothing subjective about it and there isn't really a gradient to it."If alive, all have a level of fitness. I do not think we can say that someone has no level of fitness when they are fit enough to survive.Reproduction is important to the whole species of course but in our human one, individual reproduction is not paramount or required by our fittest metrics, which is usually determined by other factors such as wealth, which a fittest could pass on to his family so as to increase their fitness and allow them to reproduce if they are fit in that area.Regards
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RingoWhat unfounded premise?Regards
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RingoShow any example of any group of diverse people and their characteristics and I think that both of us will likely agree on who is the fittest and who is the less fit.If we could not generally agree, that would refute what I put.You have yet to make your case and that is the only way to refute what I put.Regards
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RingoIf the only criteria on your requirement for fitness is reproduction then you win this one.Congratulations.You might remember that even brain dead people on life support can reproduce.They, to you, are the fittest as compared to nurses that might be caring for them who cannot reproduce.Regards
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Being a tax payer who can support his children instead of a tax taker who cannot without help we already spoke about.But you did not want to admit that the former is more fit than the later.Let me try again.Which of those two criteria is fittest to you view and why?Regards
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Objectively??I cannot.Subjectively is what I have already given.In an evolving world, I don't think there can be an objective fitness because the environment is always changing and so would the description of fitness.Regards
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PhatIt would be rather strange if I wanted disagreement. No?Regards
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