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Coyote
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Message 541 of 899 (819776)
09-14-2017 4:54 PM
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09-14-2017 4:52 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Sure they are. They're at the top of a geologic column.

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Percy
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Message 542 of 899 (819777)
09-14-2017 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 517 by Faith
09-14-2017 3:32 PM


Re: Millions of aternating layers Faith
Faith writes:
Gosh most of those are me complaining about YOU guys insulting ME and you turn that against ME?
First, most of those are not "me complaining about YOU guys insulting ME."
Second, you do indeed complain a lot about being insulted, but in those cases nobody insulted you. You just used complaining about insults as a strategy for distracting attention from the topic.
And some others are me ridiculing the argument, not the person.
As I accurately described them in my post, they were a "compendium of your rude and insulting behavior."
I seem to have a much easier time drawing replies to my few posts about your deplorable behavior than to my many posts about the topic. Focus on the topic, argue your position using evidence rather than bald declarations, drop the childish behavior, and your problems will melt away.
--Percy

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Message 543 of 899 (819778)
09-14-2017 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 533 by edge
09-14-2017 4:41 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
NO BASINS FORMED IN THE FLOOD, SO THERE ARE NO BASINS IN THE GEO CFOLUMN.
CONTINENTS COLLIDED AFTER THE FLOOD, AS EVIDENCED BY THE UNDISTURBED STACK OF STRATA EXHIBITED IN THE GRAND CANYON AT LEAST BUT ELSEWHERE TOO, AS ALL THE DISTURBANCE CLEARLY HAPPENED AFTER THE WHOLE STACK WAS IN PLACE.
THERE IS NO EROSION BETWEEN THE LAYERS OF THE GEO COLUMN THAT COULD RIGHTLY BE ATTRIBUTED TO SURFACE EROSION.
VOLCANISM BEGAN WITH THE FLOOD AND SO DID EARTHQUAKES

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Faith 
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Message 544 of 899 (819779)
09-14-2017 4:58 PM
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09-14-2017 4:56 PM


Re: Millions of aternating layers Faith
HOW DARE YOU. APOLOGIZE AND STOP THE ACCUSATIONS.

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edge
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Message 545 of 899 (819780)
09-14-2017 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 531 by Faith
09-14-2017 4:26 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Prove it. Show me a KNOWN example of a RECENTLY deposited LAYER like those in the Geo Column.
You do not even know what the geological column is. You have perpetually confused your idea of a stratigraphic column with the geological time scale.
It is no wonder that your conclusions are ludicrous.

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Faith 
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Message 546 of 899 (819781)
09-14-2017 5:00 PM
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09-14-2017 4:58 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
THE GEO TIME SCALE IS BASED ON THE GEO COLUMN.

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Message 547 of 899 (819782)
09-14-2017 5:02 PM
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09-14-2017 5:00 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Faith writes:
THE GEO TIME SCALE IS BASED ON THE GEO COLUMN.
The time scale is based on the ratio of isotopes in the rocks.

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Faith 
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Message 548 of 899 (819783)
09-14-2017 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 541 by Coyote
09-14-2017 4:54 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Being on top is not being continuous with.

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edge
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Message 549 of 899 (819784)
09-14-2017 5:05 PM
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09-14-2017 4:56 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
NO BASINS FORMED IN THE FLOOD, SO THERE ARE NO BASINS IN THE GEO CFOLUMN.
Well, that's kind of an odd statement since we have shown you the Michigan basin with has the same rocks as your geological column being deposited there.
CONTINENTS COLLIDED AFTER THE FLOOD, AS EVIDENCED BY THE UNDISTURBED STACK OF STRATA EXHIBITED IN THE GRAND CANYON AT LEAST BUT ELSEWHERE TOO, AS ALL THE DISTURBANCE CLEARLY HAPPENED AFTER THE WHOLE STACK WAS IN PLACE.
First of all, the Grand Canyon is not like every other place in the world.
THERE IS NO EROSION BETWEEN THE LAYERS OF THE GEO COLUMN THAT COULD RIGHTLY BE ATTRIBUTED TO SURFACE EROSION.
Nonsense, for instance, we see stream channels throughout the geological column, including at the Grand Canyon.
VOLCANISM BEGAN WITH THE FLOOD AND SO DID EARTHQUAKES
Not really. But considering that you don't say where the flood began, nor where it ended in the record, I can't say much about your statement. The fact that we have volcanic rocks deep in the section and even in the basement rocks, suggests that you are wrong.

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Faith 
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Message 550 of 899 (819785)
09-14-2017 5:06 PM
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09-14-2017 5:02 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
IN THE ROCKS OF THE GEO COLUMN.

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Faith 
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Message 551 of 899 (819786)
09-14-2017 5:07 PM
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09-14-2017 5:05 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
THE MICHIGAN BASIN BECAME A BASIN AFTER ALL THE STRATA WERE IN PLACE.
THE EROSION BETWEEN THE LAYERS IN THE GC IS TOO TINY TO HAVE OCCURRED ON THE SURFACE, IT HAD TO HAVE OCCURRED AFTER THE STRATA WERE ALL IN PLACE.
AND THE FLOOD STARTED WHEREVER THE STRATA START, DEEP BENEATH THE GC FOR INSTANCE, AND STOPS AT THE TOP OF THE GRAND STAIRCASE.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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edge
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Message 552 of 899 (819787)
09-14-2017 5:08 PM
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09-14-2017 5:00 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
THE GEO TIME SCALE IS BASED ON THE GEO COLUMN.
So, you admit that they are not the same thing, yes?

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Percy
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Message 553 of 899 (819788)
09-14-2017 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 518 by Faith
09-14-2017 3:34 PM


Faith writes:
Aussie writes:
But I may yet run away, we'll see.
You will. It's what you do.
It's all you are capable of in this topic.
Now who's lying? I've made the argument over and over here, MADE IT, proved it, even on this thread but certainly very thoroughly on others.
Who's lying? You of course. You haven't made any successful arguments, not here nor in any other thread. What happens is precisely what Aussie said. You argue yourself into a corner and then you run away. You use running away as tactic to bring discussion to a halt so that when you return you can pretend that none of the rebuttals you couldn't deal with ever happened.
You are not judge and jury of your own arguments. By coming here to debate you enter your ideas into the arena and see how they fare. Running away is an admission of defeat. The only thing you said that was true is that you've "made the argument over and over." Yes, that's what you do, make your original argument over and over again as if it hadn't been rebutted over and over again. You rarely deal with the rebuttals.
The other thing that you said, that you "proved it", is clearly false. Nothing is ever proved in science, but you haven't even been able to mount a preponderance of the evidence on any point, or usually any evidence at all. Mostly all you do is declare your position over and over again.
--Percy

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edge
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Message 554 of 899 (819789)
09-14-2017 5:10 PM
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09-14-2017 5:07 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
THE MICHIGAN BASIN BECAME A BASIN AFTER ALL THE STRATA WERE IN PLACE.
Not really.
If that were the case, we wouldn't see the pattern of thickening of the formations that does occur, and there wouldn't be evidence for ti being a closed basin.

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Faith 
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Message 555 of 899 (819790)
09-14-2017 5:11 PM
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09-14-2017 5:08 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
OH BUT THEY ARE SO INTIMATELY TIED TOGETHER IT CAN BE CLEARLY SEEN THAT THERE COULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ANYTHING LIKE THE SCENARIOS SUPPOSEDLY ILLUSTRATING THE TIME PERIODS WHERE THE ROCKS ARE THAT ARE NOW IN THEIR PLACE.

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