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Topic: Revolting middle class. If the rich keep funding war with the lives of the lower clas
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 65 of 86 (819466)
09-11-2017 12:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by ringo 09-11-2017 11:37 AM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
Seems we agree on your last. Not on your first in all cases. The needs or good of the many outweigh the needs or good of the few must be judged subjectively but I think, since the conclusion is always for it. that might just be the only objective moral tenet I can think of. Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 67 of 86 (819474)
09-11-2017 2:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 66 by ringo 09-11-2017 12:28 PM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
That is what I just said, yes. Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 69 of 86 (819556)
09-12-2017 4:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 68 by ringo 09-12-2017 11:36 AM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
Eh, not that I can see. How did you get to that from where we were? Show the logic trail. Perhaps I missed something. Regards DL
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Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 73 of 86 (819725)
09-14-2017 9:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 71 by Dogmafood 09-13-2017 2:53 PM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
ProtoTypical "An individual is either fit or they are not. They either survive long enough to reproduce or they do not. There is nothing subjective about it and there isn't really a gradient to it." If alive, all have a level of fitness. I do not think we can say that someone has no level of fitness when they are fit enough to survive. Reproduction is important to the whole species of course but in our human one, individual reproduction is not paramount or required by our fittest metrics, which is usually determined by other factors such as wealth, which a fittest could pass on to his family so as to increase their fitness and allow them to reproduce if they are fit in that area. Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 74 of 86 (819726)
09-14-2017 9:28 AM
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Reply to: Message 72 by ringo 09-13-2017 3:50 PM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
Ringo What unfounded premise? Regards DL
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Message 76 of 86 (819738)
09-14-2017 12:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 75 by ringo 09-14-2017 11:35 AM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
Ringo Show any example of any group of diverse people and their characteristics and I think that both of us will likely agree on who is the fittest and who is the less fit. If we could not generally agree, that would refute what I put. You have yet to make your case and that is the only way to refute what I put. Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 78 of 86 (819743)
09-14-2017 12:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 77 by ringo 09-14-2017 12:41 PM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
Ringo If the only criteria on your requirement for fitness is reproduction then you win this one. Congratulations. You might remember that even brain dead people on life support can reproduce. They, to you, are the fittest as compared to nurses that might be caring for them who cannot reproduce. Regards DL
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Message 80 of 86 (819748)
09-14-2017 2:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 79 by ringo 09-14-2017 12:57 PM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
Being a tax payer who can support his children instead of a tax taker who cannot without help we already spoke about. But you did not want to admit that the former is more fit than the later. Let me try again. Which of those two criteria is fittest to you view and why? Regards DL
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Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 82 of 86 (819949)
09-15-2017 11:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 81 by ringo 09-15-2017 11:43 AM
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Re: Dumbest We Are?
Objectively?? I cannot. Subjectively is what I have already given. In an evolving world, I don't think there can be an objective fitness because the environment is always changing and so would the description of fitness. Regards DL
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Message 86 of 86 (819975)
09-15-2017 12:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 84 by Phat 09-15-2017 12:42 PM
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Re: Agreeable We Aren't
Phat It would be rather strange if I wanted disagreement. No? Regards DL
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