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anglagard
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Message 38 of 88 (820018)
09-15-2017 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Porkncheese
09-14-2017 11:38 PM


Lucy in Person (at least what's left)
The daughter and I saw the actual fossil of Lucy at the Houston Museum of Natural Science back in 2008. The fossil is actually a very dark brown rather than white or of a lighter shade.

The main importance of this find, which correctly pointed out is but one among hundreds of the genus, is the illiac flare (the alignment of the hip is more human than other apes). This is what I pointed out to the kid, because it indicates an upright posture. Considering the age and size of the braincase in other fossilized skulls of this particular species, it also shows that upright posture preceeded the enlargement of cranial capacity later seen in the genus Homo (regardless of a stature of under 4 feet).

So it is kind of a big deal in the history of physical anthropology.

However a lot of new discoveries have occurred since Lucy. I advise more familiarity with this rapidly changing field before drawing any tentative conclusions based on incomplete and truly dated knowledge.

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anglagard
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Message 69 of 88 (820232)
09-17-2017 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Porkncheese
09-16-2017 3:04 PM


Re: Confession
Porkncheese writes:

I feel horrible for what I said to my parents a year ago. My attack on their faith came from every angle. I was disrespectful, hateful, inconsiderate and totally fucked. It hurt them. And for wat. This bullshit of a debate.

We haven’t spoken since. And although iv tried to justify it to myself in the last 3 months I can’t. I’m a terrible person fuckin hell.

Sincerely ask them for forgiveness. If they are remotely as Christian as you say they are then they are compelled to forgive. After all forgiveness is the central message of those "red words" in the KJV. Everything else is mostly either setting up that climatic part of the story, or largely bogus commentary and history which often is in conflict with both those red words and verifiable facts.

Iv learnt what this ToE is all about. U can’t reason with a group of retarted fuckin apes with dogmatic views. And becoming frustrated with you retarted apes with tiny cranium capacities is in itself stupid of myself.

I was dumb to accept this shit without question to begin with. And u bunch of old men 40s and 50s spinning the same old childish shit. Being 19yo and agnostic ya’ll total fuckin liars. Living in a fairytale pipe dream.

Taking out your anger at yourself on others who are vastly better informed about science and in many cases religion will not help in your journey to ultimately forgive yourself. Only asking for your parents forgiveness can do that.

Also at 19, you know a lot less than you think you do. Admitting this is the first step toward wisdom. Another is to manage your anger issues but that comes easier with time as those raging male hormones stop overriding every thought and piece of advice provided by those who have "been there done that."

Fuckin narrow minded knuckle heads lacking any dignity or culture. Spinning shit only to oppose religion.

You know that is a false statement. Jar, however cranky he may occasionally be due to frustration, is not only pretty wise but also the very epitome of a Christian according to our conversations. And that is just one example.

Now my conscious is killing me. I’m the prodigal son. Must make peace asap.

You must try, or you will never forgive yourself and will never be truly happy.

I wish you the best of luck in your journey toward forgiveness, knowledge, and hopefully someday with hard work - wisdom.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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