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Faith 
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Message 70 of 142 (790495)
08-30-2016 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by jar
08-30-2016 7:36 PM


Re: the God of scripture is a fantasy
Boy are you in for a surprise.

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Message 109 of 142 (820277)
09-18-2017 1:42 PM
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09-18-2017 11:14 AM


Re: Faith (our beloved member) and Presuppositionalism
I don't dismiss secular science either Phat. I wish people would get that straight. I'm against the specific sciences of the past, Old Earth Geology and evolution from species to species. I consider these bogus sciences, but all other sciences are legitimate and valuable because they are testable.
EvC won't let anyone be a presuppositionalist, they demand we prove everything. Otherwise I suppose I'm a presuppositionalist.

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Message 111 of 142 (820386)
09-19-2017 10:48 PM
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09-19-2017 12:22 PM


Re: Faith (our beloved member) and Presuppositionalism
I don't reject Geology as such just as I don't reject Biology as such, they both do important work. What I reject is the Old Earth and Evolutionist interpretive schemes.

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Faith 
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Message 113 of 142 (820392)
09-20-2017 3:57 AM
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09-20-2017 3:04 AM


Re: Faith (our beloved member) and Presuppositionalism
I ought to know if I reject those other sciences and I know I don't.

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Message 115 of 142 (820398)
09-20-2017 4:19 AM
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09-20-2017 4:17 AM


Re: Faith (our beloved member) and Presuppositionalism
I know I reject radiometric dating, what does that have to do with your overall statement that I reject whole sciences when I know I don't?

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Message 117 of 142 (820402)
09-20-2017 4:54 AM
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09-20-2017 4:44 AM


Re: Faith (our beloved member) and Presuppositionalism
If you reject the process of evolution and instead believe that species were created whole, you reject biology, if you claim that billion year old rocks are 4,000 years old you reject geology. If you believe that the stars are not billions of light years away then you reject astronomy......I could go on.
You think you're picking and choosing between independent facts, you don't understand that all the sciences support each other, you can't reject one part without rejecting the whole. By claiming that the earth is 6,000 years old you reject all science and all its core principles and methodologies.
You can't define for me what I believe. I believe in everything to do with the sciences that can be replicated and tested and that is in fact most of the content of most of the sciences.

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Message 119 of 142 (820405)
09-20-2017 5:31 AM
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09-20-2017 5:26 AM


Re: Faith (our beloved member) and Presuppositionalism
I accept most of science and you can't tell me I don't.

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Message 121 of 142 (820435)
09-20-2017 3:30 PM
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09-20-2017 3:17 PM


Re: Faith (our beloved member) and Presuppositionalism
I disagree, sorry.

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