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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
NPR writes: Right now the news media is not in consensus regarding details... Federal authorities are responding to a shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, a small community southeast of San Antonio. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has tweeted that special agents from its San Antonio field office have been dispatched to the scene. A man walked into the church during a service late Sunday morning and "began firing," the local Wilson County News reports, citing county Sheriff Joe Tackitt. The paper notes that Tackitt "confirmed there were multiple casualties and multiple fatalities."s many as 25 people were killed when a gunman opened fire at a church in small Texas town outside of San Antonio on Sunday morning, police told NBC News. What kind of terrorism is expected in a small Texas town?
A single gunman opened fire at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, killing approximately 25 people, Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackett said. The shooter was among the dead, Tackett said. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
The news media is developing the story as it unfolds. The FBI is undoubtedly going to take over the investigation. Several thoughts on the matter(It happened just this morning)
[*(] If this was domestic terrorism, why would someone shoot their own choir? Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Wonder whom we will collectively blame? I suppose in conservative Texas, they will blame satan unless ISIS claims responsibility.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
More details are coming out in the news. One family lost 3 generations! The stories are heart-wrenching as expected from these tragedies. The impact of such an irrational act always creates many ripples in the fabric of society that travel far.
One detail that is unclear of this writing is how the suspect died. He was pursued by a neighbor who grabbed his own rifle. Even if the neighbor ended up killing him I wouldn't be in favor of pressing charges---the man prevented more deaths. You all have access to ample news media and reports. As NoNukes says, we will have time to discuss this in more detail in a week.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
The news is clearing up about the suspect. He was thought to be first of all mentally unstable, though the USAF blew it by not reporting his domestic violence and threats on base to the national database.
Hewas thought to be a somewhat militant atheist, judging from some of his social media posts and content...he thought that Christians were *stupid*. I'm sure the evangelical right will run with that one awhile...it makes it easier for them to blame Satan. I never read up on where his Mother-In-Law was that Sunday...he was thought to have been targeting either her or the whole church. Sandy Hook was the first time children were targeted, and this marks another time....yet critics say that the debate is over if nothing has been done thus far.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Shall we blame guns, or human nature? Shall we blame mental illness or the Air Force? Shall we blame religion? Or was Pogo right?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Regardless of what "human nature" is, a human with a gun is more dangerous than a human without a gun. And yet if we enact laws to outlaw gun ownership, the critic's standard reply is that the outlaws (or dictatorships or organized criminals) will still have guns and that the average citizen has no weapon against them. Just in the recent shooting in Texas, only a quick-acting neighbor with a gun was able to stop the killer from causing more collateral damage. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
In the case of a dictatorship or martial law, a lot of good that would do. The nazis were easily spotted carrying guns, but the population was powerless to fight them.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
You may be right, but I am against the state having that much control over my buying habits. The state should not meddle in peoples freedoms and rights.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Arguably, the purpose of the state is to protect the group from its individuals.
Yet in our current system, what we have is legislation protecting some groups of individuals from other groups of individuals and a political tug-of-war as to which group is in power.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Lets take this topic over to Gun Control III as the Texas shooting is no longer front page news. (That was a good reply, however. You make me think.)
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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