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Author Topic:   Y.E.C. Model: Was there rapid evolution and speciation post flood?
starman
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Message 457 of 518 (823139)
11-06-2017 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 453 by ringo
11-06-2017 10:54 AM


No, you don't know how evolution used to happen! If so, then show us how you know it happened slow and just as it now does?? Let's see the goods.

Paaleeese tell us you are not going to play that religious game of saying 'gee, we must have evolved the same, because the nature was the same'!

Edited by starman, : No reason given.


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Message 458 of 518 (823140)
11-06-2017 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 454 by RAZD
11-06-2017 11:12 AM


Re: the continued failures of starman
The stump is evidence of...what!!? That a lots of rings exist? Or..? Spit it out.

If halos are off topic why did YOU bring them up here? You can't post the goods and plead that the reason is that it is off topic. Circular. Ridiculous.


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Message 468 of 518 (823205)
11-07-2017 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 459 by RAZD
11-06-2017 1:32 PM


Re: Wrong again
Blather. Your one and only option here is to prove a same state past on earth or you may not use it in models. Period.

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Message 469 of 518 (823206)
11-07-2017 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 460 by jar
11-06-2017 1:33 PM


Re: most of us are neither utterly ignorant or utterly dishonest
You can't and do not have to any more than you can deny it. Ha. How sweet it is.

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Message 470 of 518 (823207)
11-07-2017 4:28 PM
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11-06-2017 1:41 PM


Re: the continued failures of starman
Anyone can spam links. You can't even post the gist of the matter regarding the issues here in a short concise way. If you could I would beat it to chaff in a New York minute anyhow. So I get why you beat around the bush pretending you could do wonders here. I know better.

As for the tree ring business I hope you get the point by now that everything in a dead or living tree depends on what nature it grew. Period.


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Message 471 of 518 (823208)
11-07-2017 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 462 by Coyote
11-06-2017 8:26 PM


Re: Starman fails
The issue was addressed face the music. No decay dates are of any value unless the nature was always the same. Prove it or lose the claims! Hoo ha.

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Message 472 of 518 (823209)
11-07-2017 4:31 PM
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11-07-2017 7:00 AM


Re: Starman fails
Your same state past based godless models of the past are fake news so called science.

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starman
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Message 474 of 518 (823211)
11-07-2017 4:34 PM
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11-07-2017 10:09 AM


Re: Starman fails
The creation order is only in chapter one. Chapter two starts after it was all finished already as the very first verse clearly states. Gong!

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Message 475 of 518 (823212)
11-07-2017 4:35 PM
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11-07-2017 4:31 PM


Re: most of us are neither utterly ignorant or utterly dishonest
Wrong. I doubt there was any DNA as we now see it then even! In any case all DNA we do have is very post nature change. Sorry you get another GONG!

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Message 483 of 518 (823337)
11-09-2017 12:19 PM
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11-07-2017 5:20 PM


Re: most of us are neither utterly ignorant or utterly dishonest
Not true. All DNA we have is very post flood era.

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starman
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Message 484 of 518 (823338)
11-09-2017 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 482 by ringo
11-08-2017 2:24 PM


Maybe cite a post that shows evolution was the same as now? I wasn't born yesterday.

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Message 485 of 518 (823339)
11-09-2017 12:23 PM
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11-07-2017 4:51 PM


Re: Starman fails
You have not shown that there was a present nature along with it's decay. Forget rates. How about starting off showing us with support that there was ANY decay on earth?

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Message 486 of 518 (823340)
11-09-2017 12:24 PM
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11-07-2017 5:15 PM


Re: Starman fails
Gen 2 is after the fact. After it was all done, the events it revisits are not an order. Period.

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starman
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Message 488 of 518 (823343)
11-09-2017 12:28 PM
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11-07-2017 5:18 PM


Re: the continued failures of starman
You did not know what to look for in finding tree rings or anything else that might pre date our nature. Don't pretend you found nothing, you looked for nothing. Tree rings still formed whatever nature they grew in. It just happens that in the present state rings take a certain time to grow.

As for pretending there is some great point buried in other threads that you could not have summarized here, let's be honest.


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Message 494 of 518 (823375)
11-09-2017 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 481 by jar
11-07-2017 5:20 PM


Re: most of us are neither utterly ignorant or utterly dishonest
No. You sure don;t, unless you claim to have DNA from 70,000,000 years ago. Which is about probably 5000 years actual real time)

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