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RAZD
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Message 11 of 73 (751073)
02-26-2015 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Jon
02-26-2015 7:08 PM


satellite anywhere internet/phone
HughesNet Internet | 1-855-386-1643 | Satellite Internet
$49.95/mo
The future of internet has to be satellite (or solar drone dirigibles) replacing cell towers and cables
ALL US service is crap for speed and cost
quote:
Why the U.S. Has Fallen Behind in Internet Speed and Affordability
Downloading a high-definition movie takes about seven seconds in Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Zurich, Bucharest and Paris, and people pay as little as $30 a month for that connection. In Los Angeles, New York and Washington, downloading the same movie takes 1.4 minutes for people with the fastest Internet available, and they pay $300 a month for the privilege, according to The Cost of Connectivity, a report published Thursday by the New America Foundation’s Open Technology Institute.
The reason the United States lags many countries in both speed and affordability, according to people who study the issue, has nothing to do with technology. Instead, it is an economic policy problem the lack of competition in the broadband industry.
Then there is community operated internet\broadband
Welcome to Town Of Norwood, Massachusetts
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Message 33 of 73 (751506)
03-03-2015 2:16 PM
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02-26-2015 11:28 PM


Re: satellite anywhere internet/phone
quote:
Researchers Achieve Record-Smashing Wireless Connection Speeds
Do you know what wireless speeds of one terabit per second gets you? One hundred full-length movies downloaded onto your phone in just three seconds. Researchers in the U.K. are now saying that they’ve achieved just that: 1 Tbps over a 5G connection for the first time ever. That's the fastest wireless speed to date.
This is the same capacity as fiber optics but we are doing it wirelessly, Rahim Tafazolli of the 5G Innovation Centre (5GIC) at the University of Surrey tells V3. Their tests were carried out under lab conditions over a distance of 100 meters (328 feet) using transmitters and receivers built at Surrey.
The speed is more than 65,000 times faster than average 4G download speeds (that’s just 15 megabits per second, or Mbps). And it also smashes the previous 5G (or fifth generation) speed record achieved last October in tests: Samsung's 7.5 gigabits per second (Gbps), BBC reports, is less than one percent of the Surrey team's speed.
This is why satellite (or solar powered drone dirigibles) will beat out wire\cable\optic systems -- they can upgrade easier without having to replace transmission lines.
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Message 40 of 73 (824189)
11-24-2017 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
02-26-2015 2:11 PM


Neutrality under attack again, from Trump
quote:
John Oliver Wants You to Flood the FCC Website to Save Net Neutrality, Again
The Internet is the repository of all human knowledge and goats singing Taylor Swift songs, said John Oliver on Last Week Tonight, rejoicing in the fact that the Internet is an incredible place. However, according to Oliver, that is threatened by the Trump administration’s decision to roll back protections for net neutrality.
Net neutrality could be protected by an act of Congress, but Oliver does not trust this Congress or any Congress to handle such a complex and technical issue. Instead, Oliver believes that anyone who loves the Internet needs to speak up and make sure the FCC knows that net neutrality is important. To make that easy, Oliver bought the website GoFCCYourself.com which leads directly to the FCC’s public comment area.
Go to GoFCCYourself.com and click on the [express] link on the right side.
Keep the internet under Title II
ps you need to hit enter after each name you enter

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Message 42 of 73 (824203)
11-24-2017 1:25 PM
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11-24-2017 10:51 AM


Re: Neutrality under attack again, from Trump
... The Republicans want to change that specifically how, again?
Trump wants to undo everything Obama, and that includes undoing protecting the internet under Title II so that the ISPs can't charge different rates for different speeds provided, or even exclude some sites because they don't pay a fee to be available.
Before Obama the internet fell under Title I, and Netscape sued the FCC and won to have tiered service. The judge told the FCC that they needed to be under Title II to protect neutrality, and congress and Obama made it so.
It may be the last straw before people get together and form a crowd internet, certainly in urban areas
Firechat Enables the Crowd to Become the Internet --Bypassing Central Powers | Jeremiah Owyang
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Message 47 of 73 (825467)
12-15-2017 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Percy
12-14-2017 1:27 PM


Re: FCC Dissenters on Net Neutrality Repeal Post Letters
Not over quite yet -- it has to be approved by congress.
Several states are already moving to replace federal requirements with state ones, and several states are suing the FCC.
In addition, there are cities that have set up their own internet service
Chattanooga's super-fast, publicly-owned Internet
Page not found | The Nation :
quote:
Even in places where private companies provide high-speed service, a public Internet option may prove increasingly vital to low-income residents. Internet inequality is a growing issue in the United States: Internet connections are often required for job applications, and seven in 10 teachers assign homework that requires broadband access, according to FCC commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel; yet about one-third of low-income families don’t have high-speed access to the Internet in their homes. Part of the problem is geography: Private Internet companies have little incentive to lay cable to sparsely populated areas. But even bigger cities usually only have one or two options for private Internet access, and so companies like Comcast have little competition and therefore little incentive to make their services affordable for low-income families.
Most municipalities don’t have official mandates to make Internet access more equitable, but it seems that equity is nonetheless a central concern of many municipal providers. In Wilson, North Carolina (population: 50,000), the city began laying fiber-optic cables between government buildings in order to better share information, and decided it could expand the service to others. The city now offers free WiFi downtown and has teamed up with two nonprofit after-school programs to provide the Internet to low-income kids. The small city of Sandy, Oregon, doesn’t have discounted plans, but its municipal service nonetheless is cheaper than corporate providers100 megabits costs only $40 a month.
Just like we provide parks and trails and other amenities, we also feel likehaving great Internet is a reason to live here, Seth Atkinson, Sandy’s city manager, said.
Laying fiber-optic cable can be expensive, so it’s unlikely that big cities will jump on the municipal Internet bandwagon anytime soon, but leaders are nonetheless beginning to see equitable Internet access as a major issue. In San Francisco, the city teamed up with the nonprofit Internet Archive to provide free high-speed Internet access to thousands of public-housing residents. New York City too is beginning to offer free Internet access in public-housing projects.
Public non-profit co-op utilities -- another socialist solution to capitalist greed.
Enjoy
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Message 50 of 73 (825584)
12-16-2017 9:23 AM
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12-16-2017 9:10 AM


But though I posted it I don't think the article is worth reading because I think it is wrong. I can summarize it's basic message: basically, nothing will change in the near term, maybe in a year.
Well, I keep hitting the  Do Nothing Button  in the hopes that it will stall the Trump agenda, but it doesn't seem to have much effect.

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Message 52 of 73 (825598)
12-16-2017 11:16 AM
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12-16-2017 10:08 AM


What happens when you hit the Do Nothing Button, ...
Nothing on screen, but then Trump does something outrageous again. (you do realize I was making joke?)
... and what browser are you using?
Firefox 57.0.2 (64 bit).

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Message 53 of 73 (825636)
12-16-2017 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by NoNukes
12-16-2017 6:56 AM


Re: FCC Dissenters on Net Neutrality Repeal Post Letters
If we want to call local public efforts to provide internet access socialist, a point that I don't concede ...
Well I liken them to sewers and watermains, electrical utilities and the like: services provided by local government through taxation and/or fees, with no profit built in. The people agree through their elected officials to have these services provided. Internet should be no different.
We also have police and fire protection provided with no profit built in (though that was tried), and roads and sidewalks.
They are certainly more socialistic/cooperative services provided through democratic processes than they are capitalistic.
... then what should we call state government laws that to prevent voters from providing public assess for their communities. Surely those kind of laws are something other than free market capitalism.
Not sure how to parse that. But laws that suppress democratic processes are totalitarian or fascist in my opinion. They certainly are not (democratic) socialism either.
Who voted for this shite again?
The corrupt politicians that are bought by the oligarchs?
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Message 54 of 73 (825644)
12-16-2017 5:45 PM
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12-16-2017 3:57 PM


So the reason Net Neutrality was scuppered is so Trump can censor access?
It's all adding up to an attempt to control information by the Trump Fascist Administration.
See Trump thread
... we should be very concerned...
... because this is the way the world ends, not with a scream, but a whimper

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Message 56 of 73 (825673)
12-17-2017 8:13 AM
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12-16-2017 8:57 PM


Re: "Do Nothing Button" sometimes malfunctions
Interesting. I was just bemoaning that it isn't stopping Trumps march to Armageddon.
But this also got me thinking about a new button:  Your Threads  that could replace the DNB ...
... and that would take you to the list of threads you are active in (same as clicking on your name)
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Message 58 of 73 (825825)
12-18-2017 10:16 AM
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12-18-2017 10:04 AM


Re: FCC Dissenters on Net Neutrality Repeal Post Letters
I was thinking of those folks who voted in those politicians. ...
And were gullible enough to believe the campaign slogans rather than look at actual actions.
... The current outcome was entirely predictable, and folks should have taken it into account at the last election.
Sadly I doubt many people think of the consequences of voting or not voting in regard to things like FCC and especially the Supreme Court.
Even more serious is the silent overhaul of the justice system. In addition to not allowing Obama to pick a Supreme Court justice, the republicans held open countless federal judge openings for Trump that should have been filled by Obama. Those positions are being filled with ideologues who in at least a few cases are not even legally competent
Indeed, but there must be some means to remove someone who is incompetent, one would hope.
Can justices be impeached?

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