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Author Topic:   Genesis "kinds" may be Nested Hierarchies.
CRR
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Message 176 of 218 (825322)
12-13-2017 3:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dredge
09-28-2017 5:17 AM


Kinds and Nested Hierarchies
Hello Dredge, I've been away for a while.
Dredge writes:
Creationist Literalists are often critiqued for not being able to define what "kinds" are.
First, Creationists are not Literalists! Rather, the key to a correct understanding of any part of the Bible is to ascertain the intention of the author of the portion or book under discussion. This is not as difficult as it may seem, as the Bible obviously contains: Poetry, Parables, Prophecy, Letters, Biography, History, Wisdom, etc.
The author’s intention with respect to any book of the Bible is usually quite clear from the style and the content. The key to understanding the biblical text is to take into account the historical and literary context. This can be done by employing historical-grammatical exegesis.
Should Genesis be taken literally - creation.com
The Bible and hermeneutics - creation.com
Next, biologists have trouble defining what a species is! There are many definitions of Species ( 26+). Similarly there can be several different definitions of Kind. Creationists have given definitions of Kind but no definition will please everyone; especially if they're looking for something to criticise. Here is one definition;
quote:
Groups of living organisms belong in the same created "kind" if they have descended from the same ancestral gene pool. This does not preclude new species because this represents a partitioning of the original gene pool. Information is lost or conservednot gained. A new species could arise when a population is isolated and inbreeding occurs. By this definition a new species is not a new "kind" but a further partitioning of an existing "kind".
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Dredge writes:
I would like to suggest the possibility that "kinds" actually refers to what are known by biologists as "nested hierarchies".
Yes. The species belonging to one kind will form a nested hierarchy rooted at the original created kind (Genesis Kind). The group of all living and extinct forms of life descended from an original created kind will form a holobaramin.
The mistake that many evolutionists make is to extrapolate beyond this to infer universal common ancestry.
Edited by CRR, : add ... (Genesis Kind).

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