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Message 4 of 50 (813281)
06-25-2017 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
06-25-2017 4:10 AM


Solutions both short and long term
Moose writes:
It seems to me that a capitalistic economy is a Ponzi or pyramid or something scheme, that is ultimately doomed to "the big crash".
I have always thought this to be true, also. I almost think that the wealthy anticipate crashes and adjust their portfolios to ride each one out. The rest of us are in trouble, though.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 30 of 50 (825807)
12-18-2017 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
12-18-2017 9:12 AM


Re: The Desirable direction.
Wouldnt this recreate the whole idea of indentured servants?
Why should free people know their place?
If reality includes ending the war against the wealthy and bowing and scraping, I fear the anger that would arise.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith

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Phat
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Message 34 of 50 (825817)
12-18-2017 9:48 AM
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12-18-2017 9:42 AM


Re: The Desirable direction.
jar writes:
Look at the List of Heads of Corporations. These people, like Donald Trump, have demonstrated their capability to rule.
I don't follow. They may have demonstrated capability through the mere fact that they are in power...but this hardly makes them preferable.
I suppose that in the strict sense of definition, they are capable in that they are good at what they do. They have managed to continue to improve the concentration of wealth into the upper echelon. Nobody wants a revolution yet.
Once they take my money, I'll join the masses burning down the mansions. Until then I dont want to rock the boat.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith

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Phat
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Message 36 of 50 (825821)
12-18-2017 10:01 AM
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12-18-2017 9:56 AM


Re: The Desirable direction.
jar writes:
But what you would get in the Progressive Manor Estate society is job security and a stable future.
Really? Now you are talking...what is the likelihood that the people would ever vote such a system in? Who would be against it and who would support it? Any projected guesses?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith

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Message 49 of 50 (849440)
03-10-2019 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by LamarkNewAge
12-21-2017 12:57 AM


The Desirable direction.(which is...?)
LNA writes:
(I am having trouble finding the article I am looking for. try various keywords. But don't use "homeless" in the search because it will yield trillions of articles attacking the mayor)
keywords:
city journal new york bill de blasio job training 2015 job david dinkins City Journal | Urban Affairs Magazine | Conservative Magazine Online
I have a question. Where on earth did you learn this whole search engine style of what loosely could be called learning? I would be interested in a bit of your life story regarding your early childhood experience with computers and search engines, your formal education, and your current comment regarding my mild ire at your techniques. If you open up to us a bit, we may begin to actually read your links and take interest in what you google to spark discussion amongst us.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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