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NoNukes
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Message 26 of 58 (825935)
12-19-2017 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by New Cat's Eye
12-19-2017 10:44 AM


NCE writes:
People also spend shit-tons of money trying to save babies that will never make it. Hell, people spend shit tons of money on healthcare for their pets. Spending lots of money on health is a thing, yes. And sometimes they die anyways, sure. That's all I was saying.
I hear ya. Not enough money? Dogs die, people die. That's just how it is. Just keep your hands off my healthcare.
Percy writes:
Problems too big and requiring too much coordination and cooperation for numerous independent organizations like doctors, hospitals and insurance companies across many states is where national governments should step in.
NCE writes:
As a last resort, imho. But I don't want the feds in charge of my healthcare, or anywhere near it really. They suck.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

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NoNukes
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Message 28 of 58 (825940)
12-19-2017 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by New Cat's Eye
12-19-2017 2:01 PM


What is it that you think you are doing?
I would think what I am doing is rather obvious.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

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NoNukes
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Message 33 of 58 (826053)
12-21-2017 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by New Cat's Eye
12-19-2017 2:45 PM


Being retarded?
No more than I expected. I'll note here that other folks see your BS just as well as I do.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

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NoNukes
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Message 38 of 58 (826067)
12-21-2017 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by xongsmith
12-21-2017 10:14 AM


NCE has been something of an asshole lately and should be feeling a sting of some kind.
I think the name calling stuff is unnecessary. NCE's politics are sometimes difficult to defend without leaving the impression that the holder of said opinions is soulless and self-centered. In this kind of lefty filled environment, somebody is bound to point out that exact point.
Perhaps that is why some of our more right leaning posters adopt a "hit and run" style where they post bombs and don't hang around for a rebuttal. NCE does not do that. I give him props for that at least. I imagine that being a libertarian or a conservative poster has some similarities to being a Creationist poster here.
We want folks to express their opinions here. I do at least. Because I want to understand the mindset that underlies those opinions. But if there really isn't much more mindset behind those positions than what a surface review suggests, I want to know that too.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

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NoNukes
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Message 41 of 58 (826167)
12-23-2017 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Percy
12-22-2017 10:57 AM


Whether New Cat's Eye stays or goes is his choice. I of course would much rather he stay, but I do not think we should censor or soften our voice for fear that he, or anyone else we may disagree with, will leave.
I did not mean to create the impression that we should avoid expressing our opinions beyond suggesting that we not resort to mere name-calling.
Your post has given me some things to think about. I wrote some quick sentences in response, but I deleted them. I probably won't get around to posting anything.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

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NoNukes
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Message 47 of 58 (827070)
01-16-2018 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by New Cat's Eye
01-16-2018 8:54 AM


But you don't say that my position is uncaring. You say that I, personally, am uncaring.
This is of a piece with your claim that we cannot tell what emotions people are having because their true feelings are in their heads. If you are actually having some kind of internal conflict that never actually affects your opinion or your actions, why should anyone give a crap about that?
In short, why shouldn't we call you uncaring if your position is uncaring?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

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