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Author Topic:   The Tension of Faith
Rrhain
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Message 1271 of 1540 (825449)
12-14-2017 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1270 by Paboss
12-14-2017 11:40 PM


Re: What is sad about much of Christianity today
Paboss writes:

quote:
I wonder which god is that who is against killing babies. Was it the one that killed every firstborn in Egypt just to prove a point? Or the one that order Joshua’s gang not to leave alive anyone from the cities they were conquering, even children? Of course only young virgins so that the gang could have some sex slaves.

Don't forget the one who told Abraham to kill his own son...his own born son.

Don't forget the one that made it a law that if a person attacks a woman and causes her to miscarry, he isn't guilty of murder and can only be penalized by a fine.


Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Rrhain
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From: San Diego, CA, USA
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Message 1500 of 1540 (826745)
01-09-2018 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1499 by Percy
12-29-2017 6:17 PM


What's this about Mary Magdalene?
Percy writes:

quote:
You mean like Jesus "tolerating" Mary Magdalene?

Um, what is it about Mary Magdalene that you think needs "tolerating"?

You *do* know that she wasn't a prostitute, yes? Oh, she had demons cast out of her (by Jesus), but that's not a reason to disassociate from her afterward.

Don't confuse the ravings of Gregory I for what the Bible actually says about Mary Magdalene. The fact that he couldn't read Luke and decided to unfurl his misogyny by claiming that an unnamed woman had to be Mary Magdalene because of some bizarre numerology and a fever dream of women needing redemption doesn't mean he was right.

The Orthodox don't see MM as a prostitute and even consider her to be a virgin. In fact, there is an Orthodox tradition that the reason she had the seven demons is because she was so virtuous that the devil thought she was going to bear Christ and thus possessed her. Heck, even the Catholics figured it out and said she wasn't the sinner in Luke back in 1969. Only the Protestants seem to follow Pope Gregory I's claim...a bit odd, you would think, Protestants clinging to ancient Catholic teachings....


Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Rrhain
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Message 1528 of 1540 (827129)
01-17-2018 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1525 by New Cat's Eye
01-16-2018 9:05 AM


Re: Tension from Faith
New Cat's Eye responds to Percy [and I know NCE has quit, but I think this point is important]:

quote:
quote:
Oh, I don't know. Try burning a cross on someone's lawn or painting a swastika on a synagogue or participating in a lynching, and that's pretty conclusive that one has hate in their heart, unless maybe one is a psychopath.

Or a troll.


And thus, hateful. You troll someone not because you like them and want good things for them. You troll someone because you hate them. Let us not pretend that simply because you're not slobbering at your screen, trying to dox them, showing up at their homes to threaten them with physical violence, or even carry it out that it isn't hateful.

quote:
Or prankster.

And thus, hateful. The first rule of a prank is to know who you're pranking. If they're not laughing, then you're not pranking.

Remember, bigots don't get to define what bigotry is.


Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Rrhain
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Message 1537 of 1540 (827208)
01-19-2018 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1534 by Stile
01-19-2018 3:04 PM


Re: Tension from Faith
Stile writes:

quote:
But burning a cross on your lawn?

You realize you just decided to change the scenario, yes? There was an understanding that the scenario was not you trying to destroy your own property by immolation but rather going to someone else's property without their consent in order to erect a cross and set it on fire specifically so that they can see it.

All within a context of such events happening primarily to send the message to black people that they aren't wanted.

If you're simply trying to point out that there are ways to burn a cross that aren't hateful, then point conceded. Simply remove all historical context and completely change the scenario from what was accepted previously and we'll all agree that it is practically possible to do this. Heck, there's an entire literary concept about such things known as "subversion of tropes." Mel Brooks did a lot of this...the entire point of The Producers is to make a comedy about Hitler. It can be done and it's brilliant.

But when something walks, talks, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. To claim that if we pluck it, cut its feet off, remove the bill, and genetically re-engineer it with pig DNA it isn't a duck would technically be true, but isn't what was originally seen.


Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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