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Author Topic:   The Tension of Faith
NoNukes
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Message 1531 of 1540 (827183)
01-19-2018 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1529 by Stile
01-19-2018 10:47 AM


Re: Tension from Faith
The only person who can really identify if they are deeply, truly offended by something is that person.

Of course, this is true. But if this is the basis of your argument regarding hate, then your argument is nonsense. Hate is the intent of the person delivering that 'something'. If his attempt at offense fails because nobody receives it, that does not negate the attempt.

Similarly, we might acknowledge that someone taking offense at a completely innocuous statement does not translate that statement into hatred either.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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Message 1538 of 1540 (827210)
01-19-2018 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1533 by Stile
01-19-2018 2:47 PM


Re: Tension from Faith
To me, hate is a feeling a person has.

In particular, it is feeling held by the person and not whatever he hates. The subject of the hate is irrelevant.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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