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Author Topic:   Assumptions involved in scientific dating
DOCJ
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Message 198 of 222 (827679)
01-29-2018 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by RAZD
01-29-2018 10:50 AM


Re: Questions and still no answers
The theory actually would need direct evidence to have confidence in it. I disagree that if radiocarbon dating is correct, that it does mean the same method is correct with metals.
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DOCJ
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Message 214 of 222 (827749)
01-31-2018 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Pressie
01-30-2018 4:31 AM


Re: his really stupid "Questions"
Geologist actually DO attempt to date the creation date of the Rock. I'll be honest with you. I disagree that I need to use words like formation vs creation in order to appease your sense of intelligence.. And you are not the first to defer to a "lack of" on my part in this thread. What I find more interesting is how big of a response my posts are generating. If I was so lacking, you and the others wouldn't be having this discussion (and there would be no need to be insulting, and really no reason to post so others can view your post as you do realize others can think for themselves). However, you guys seem to have more time to spend in these threads than I have available as well (this entire discussion is being viewed and discussed over my cell in my case. I rarely have time to jump on my computer). I am currently looking into many evolutionist/creationist issues regarding age, dinosaur tissue discoveries, c14 in dinosaur tissue, the desparity issue in evolution with respect to the diversity of life in the fossil record, pre cambrian and cambrian explosions of life (and related assumptions which if you want to call them conclusions THAN they are based on a current theory which they do change. And mutations have never been shown to produce diversity outside of the species (exception to plants as is also permitted in Genesis) is also theoretical in evolution with natural selection and millions of years), and rather it is a lot of information on both sides. And if you are not thinking with a paradigm or a presupposition, it does seem that there are many issues on both sides that both sides are trying to explain or argue. The thinking that it must be resolved every time by natural processes and that just because it can that it did happen by natural processes doesn't mean it did or didn't. I also think that it is a terrible practice to say, that just because a person has faith in God that that does mean his or her Scientific explanation is lacking such as finding c14 in dinosaur tissue. This if it did happen would turn naturalist claims upside down even if "containing a lot of iron" somehow was the way the tissue lasted especially if c14 didn't decay in a "65 million year old fossil". I also disagree that everything, most of the time that if the Science is done by a creationist that they are lying or just ignorant.. In this particular thread the dating methods are being disputed and it is assumed to be a closed system. I'm also looking at the open system ideas and the implications. I am currently looking at the question raised by RAZD, and related arguments on both sides of the tree rings, and the region they grew. I'll respond when I have time.. Honestly if you are going to be insulting don't respond.
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