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Coyote
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Message 19 of 25 (828446)
02-17-2018 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
02-17-2018 9:39 PM


Re: Bonfire Of The Vanities
Millions of years is a ridiculous assumption based on the ToE.
Spin it as you like, but millions of years is a conclusion based on physical evidence. Most is based on the physical sciences such as nuclear chemistry etc., not on the theory of evolution.
The theory of evolution is derived in part from that evidence from the physical sciences.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Message 21 of 25 (828450)
02-18-2018 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Faith
02-17-2018 10:40 PM


Re: Bonfire Of The Vanities
The thing is the debate about evolution vs creationism is mostly about how the evidence is interpreted. Both sides point to the same evidence in many cases.
I understand that. But you must understand that of a wide range of interpretations, not all are of equal value.
Those which account for all of the relevant evidence, and are contradicted by no relevant evidence are superior to interpretations that do not account for all the relevant evidence and that are contradicted by large amounts of evidence.
That is the case we have here. It is only by denying and "what-iffing" a lot of evidence that you pretend to make it go away, and so hold to an interpretation that is contradicted by so much evidence.
So your argument about different interpretations fails. You might as well hold to the "interpretation" that the moon is made of green cheese. Its an interpretation about as strong as is the creationist interpretation of real-world evidence.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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