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I guess you've never watched a wave recede, how the wet slick it made immediately looks like it's drying out.abe: Oh and I don't wonder at ALL why you call my posts silly. You are preprogrammed to say such things about anything a creationist says.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

But that is not at all what you said.The wave does not suck water out of sand. Sand is porous. Where do you think the water goes?Really Faith. The whole idea of some Biblical flood is so silly no honest sane person could take it seriously.AbE: Only the truly stupid things they say. Granted almost everything they say is either stupid or a lie but I'm sure something honest and sane must accidentally get said.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

Yes and all of them from the late Cretaceous: So, why no 'jumble' of all dinosaurs?And what do we know about the Lance Formation?: Yes, stream deposits... So, it's just personal incredulity on your part, yes?Do you know what streams do to dinosaur remains?They move the the bones and disarticulate them, and then deposit them in sand bars. That's why we see such accumulations of dinosaur fossils in the same kind of formations all over the world.

It's a poetic way of expressing the way it LOOKS. Sheesh. It LOOKS LIKE the water is being sucked out of the slick by the wave that just left it behind.What you are calling silly is the Christian faith as it has been believed and taught for two millennia. And it's interesting that the part you choose to denigrate the most, the Flood, is the part that the apostle Peter identified as THE focus of the scoffing of unbelievers that proves their willing ignorance of the things of God.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

But of course you would have a plausible if ridiculous explanation for something that so perfectly fits the Flood.

But it isn't drying out, is it? Nor is it lithifying. How long do prints last on modern beaches? After days and days of 'drying' would they survive the rain, wind, and of course the next wave? Or it could just be bona fide, fruitcake silly.

So, sedimentology is taught in Christianity?Sorry, Faith, but it is only your own peculiar statements that we find as silly. So Peter knew that the idea of a global flood was silly?

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What you think is straightforward and obvious is not. Up until whatever diabolical inspiration you and jar suffer from, the entire history of Christianity understood there to be only one Creation account and one Flood account in the Bible. You simply do not understand how to "rightly divide the word of truth."

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I can see that you really hate the Bible. But then in my experience that is typical for self-styled Bible-believing Christians.Unfortunately for you, not even the NIV manages to do much to hide the truth.

No, you apparently missed the context. I was replying to this: Not in this case.

Oh but it is, by a small amount. You can watch the water draining out of it. This isn't a modern beach, it's a large expanse of wet sedimentary surface in the middle of the Flood, under conditions that make the comparison with a beach out of scale at least. I'm not thinking in terms of days, but hours or even just minutes, but you're right, I do have to rethink this. The time between waves merely allows the animal to lay down the footprints, but since the incoming wave appears to be hot on its tail there wouldn't be enough time for the footprints to dry out at all; the wave would bury the creature and its footprints, and cover both deep in the new load of sediment, so the prints wouldn't be threatened by its outflowing. Well, your straw man versions of it may deserve that assessment.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Which ought to suggest the worldwide Flood to anyone really paying attention. Dinosaurs tumbling down streams would surely have occurred during the Flood. A lot more likely than lots of streams in "normal" time doing the same thing all over the world.

You'll just have to help my pitiful thinking out. You see, I'm struggling to recognise this gentle rising of water you describe here with the storms, torrential downpours, and explosive 'fountains of the deep' that took only 40 days to cover the whole earth to a depth higher than the mountains. Then receded with such power and erosion that it cut through thousands of meters of rock, whilst leaving intact fragile muddy footprints (and dinosaur poop).And I compare this mental image with another one of leaving wet footprints in the mud of a tidal estuary I fish in and seeing a very low wave from the incoming tide remove my prints in an instant.Maybe you can think for me?Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

But poetry is not science or reality Faith. We are in a Science forum and should be dealing with what is actually happening rather than fantasies. Correct. And Peter was ignorant of reality.

Nobody said anything about "all" dinosaurs. It's a jumble of something like five to ten thousand individual dinosaurs of the Cretaceous.

Just with the few points in the film ("Is Genesis History?") I've mentioned so far there's lots of that evidence for the Flood everybody keeps saying doesn't exist, some of which I've given myself many times.The evidence of Mt. St. Helens where flows from the volcano cut a canyon through solid rock, and formed straight flat sedimentary strata in a matter of hours, shows that it doesn't take aeons of time to produce such phenomena.The straightness and flatness of the strata, which they show in the Grand Canyon and at Sedona, and the tightness of the contacts between the layers, as well as the great areas of geography they cover, are all compatible with the Flood and not an Old Earth. Sedimentation on that scale on the continents isn't happening today, and what is happening beneath the oceans is far from straight and flat as the strata we see in these photos.The fact that fossilization needs special conditions to occur, conditions met abundantly by the Flood, producing the billions of dead things the Flood was supposed to bring about, but only extremely rarely met in normal life as usual. This really ought to be acknowledged as primo evidence for the Flood, but of course all we get is denial and ad hoc explanations.Dinosaur beds that contain thousands of individual animals, what we'd expect of the Flood but something requiring special made-up circumstances to be explained in normal time.