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Message 144 of 185 (774699)
12-21-2015 3:51 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Phat
12-21-2015 3:37 AM


Re: On Topic Joke
Hi Phat - another drive-by thread resurrection I see ;-).
We would rather make our own mistakes than be forced to repent all the time and continually confess our helplessness.
Only a few fawning and self-loathing, uber-pious Christians think this way. Everybody else just gets on with their lives and makes the best of it.
Being "needy" for Gods grace only makes sense once one is crushed.
See above.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 146 of 185 (774701)
12-21-2015 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by Phat
12-21-2015 8:58 AM


Re: On Topic Joke
Phat writes:
I am occasionally self-loathing.
Ok, pretend I'm god
"Stop feeling bad, Phat - that's a commandment - I didn't put you here to be miserable"
Fixed ;-)

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 147 of 185 (774702)
12-21-2015 10:55 AM



Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

  
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Message 155 of 185 (831891)
04-26-2018 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Phat
04-26-2018 3:38 PM


Re: On Topic Joke
Phat writes:
perhaps you have never been "crushed" yet.
Can't say that I have. But also I have no idea what being crushed is and what it's got to do with this god thing. Why would god allow someone to be 'crushed?'
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 162 of 185 (831931)
04-27-2018 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Phat
04-27-2018 12:52 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
Phat writes:
In the final analysis, it is human consensus on whether or not God exists
Eh? Cobblers. God exists or doesn't exist regardless of a human consensus or otherwise.
and our role as humans in the process of communion that takes place.
This is just religious gobbledegook. I never understand any of this in-house jargon and I suspect no-one does - you just get used to spouting it.
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 164 of 185 (831952)
04-28-2018 2:09 AM
Reply to: Message 163 by Faith
04-27-2018 6:22 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
Faith writes:
Just took a look at this thread and find you wrongly imputing a quote to me again, this time something Phat said. How does this happen? I don't even think I've ever posted to this thread.
My apologies, I've changed the post.
Why does it happen? Probably because I'd just replied to a post you made and still have you in my head.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 170 of 185 (832005)
04-28-2018 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Phat
04-28-2018 5:30 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
Phat writes:
Besides...i dont like this "complete" God that you market. You have fused good and evil into the actions of One Being rather than a consequence of rebellion...
Remember the snake? Evil existed before 'rebellion'.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 182 of 185 (832183)
04-30-2018 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Phat
04-30-2018 12:24 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
Phat writes:
I believe that we need God.
Then your belief is obviously incorrect; millions of atheists don't need a god.
Who the heck is gonna bail me out when I fail???
You are, helped by friends, family and societal institutions.
Your pretend god is doing an absolute shit job if that's what you're relying on now.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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