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Author Topic:   Evolution. We Have The Fossils. We Win.
jar
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Message 2643 of 2887 (832391)
05-03-2018 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 2641 by Percy
05-03-2018 9:07 AM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
The beach images are also a great example of weathering and erosion creating flat level surfaces.

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Message 2648 of 2887 (832400)
05-03-2018 10:46 AM
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05-03-2018 10:40 AM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
And that too can be seen in the beach picture; with sand being deposited and covering and filling in the spaces between the ridges.
Edited by jar, : fix tense

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jar
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Message 2685 of 2887 (832447)
05-03-2018 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 2675 by Faith
05-03-2018 3:38 PM


Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Faith writes:
I'm the only one here with the correct understanding of the Bible, but that of course means that everybody else with the weird views claims I'm the wrong one.
Yet time after time you have demonstrated that you do not believe the Bible says what it really says and prefer the dogma of your Cult.
Faith writes:
I just need to take my evidence to people who know what evidence is.
So once again Faith says she will run away.

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Message 2751 of 2887 (832549)
05-05-2018 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 2749 by Percy
05-05-2018 7:32 AM


Re: The fossils as evidence for the Flood
The concept comes from Faith claiming the geological column does not exist on the ocean floor. As you point out, I believe, that would require all the sediments washed from the land kept in an isolated suspension that then is moved back over the land where it is deposited without it also being deposited over areas that were ocean.
As usual, she never presents the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure to do that.
In Faith's scenario the sea critters are killed by the fountains of the deep churning up the sea bed that then also stays in place so it gets deposited back on the sea bed and not on land.
But of course, today we see examples of sea bed being churned up and then very rapidly being repopulated with life even right at the thermal vents.
But best of all, as you say, if the Biblical Flood actually happened then that means the God is Loki or Coyote; a conman trickster and liar.

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jar
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Message 2799 of 2887 (832607)
05-05-2018 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2798 by edge
05-05-2018 9:11 PM


Re: no supergenome
Faith writes:
And then I try to point out that you couldn't have any such landscapes where the rocks now are because they cover way too much territory and are nothing but flat sedimentary rocks which couldn't have formed from a landscape anyway, but the idea is so ingrained despite its impossibility nobody will ever see what's wrong with it.
And that's a great question that we've gone over a brazillion times before but not recently.
So let's give it a try.
Maybe those of you who are geologists or archeologists or paleontologists can help.
What type of rocks will you get from a buried mud flat landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried marsh landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried sea shore landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried desert landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried salt flat landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried forest landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried volcanic ash landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried lava flow landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried volcanic fissure eruption landscape?
What type of rocks will you get from a buried annual runoff landscape?

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Message 2830 of 2887 (832666)
05-07-2018 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2826 by Percy
05-07-2018 12:03 PM


Re: the strata again
Percy writes:
And guess what? These same sorts of things found when I dig into the ground here in New Hampshire are what is found, in lithified form, in paleosol strata. Whatever was in the soil when the area became buried and later lithified, it'll still be there for us to study should the layer ever become exposed, except that the organic components probably don't survive very well, maybe mostly pollen grains and tiny tough particles.
Except as casts which have also been shown and in fact are direct evidence not just that there was a landscape but also average temperature, elevation, seasons, rainfall, predators and other factors.
Change leaves evidence.

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jar
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Message 2863 of 2887 (832731)
05-09-2018 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 2862 by Percy
05-09-2018 8:38 AM


around trees
There is yet another small problem with Faith's scenario. There are living trees today, even right here in the US, that have been here and growing since before the Biblical Flood. And amazingly, we can see trees all over the world that continue to grow even when soil levels build up around them.

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Message 2874 of 2887 (832750)
05-09-2018 11:48 AM


Special Creation is simply a stupid fantasy.
We have the fossils, the cultures, the geology, the radiometric and isotopic evidence as well as the models, processes, methods, mechanisms and procedures that explain the fossils, the cultures, the geology, the radiometric and isotopic evidence and the other side has absolutely nothing but the dogma of their Cult.
We WIN!

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