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Astronomy Junior Member (Idle past 2231 days) Posts: 25 Joined: |
The Heaven (and Spiritual Realm) with natural laws is called Nature, not Heaven.
There are detectors of Dark Matter deep down the surface of Earth. What they have detected? Nothing. Edited by Astronomy, : No reason given.
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Modulous Member (Idle past 243 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
The Heaven (and Spiritual Realm) with natural laws is called Nature, not Heaven. OK, but how do you know there aren't conservation laws in Heaven? Not 'natural laws' but 'spiritual laws'....laws that are either shared with nature or laws that give rise to the natural laws or laws that are similar to, but different than natural laws or any other possibilities....
There are detectors of Dark Matter deep down the surface of Earth. What they have detected? Nothing. This is not evidence that Dark Matter has no natural source. It's evidence that Dark Matter is difficult to detect.
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Astronomy Junior Member (Idle past 2231 days) Posts: 25 Joined: |
in Spiritual Realm is only one Law - Sovereign Will of God. Laws in Nature can not be different from place to place and from time to time. Otherwise, the Laws in Nature are violated in Nature. But latter is mine point.
If the standard, academic, totally accepted mathematics in my researchgate paper can prove anything a man would like (by twisting formulares and words), then please disprove me using math. I will try to disprove you back.
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jar Member (Idle past 97 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What evidence the there that there is any Spiritual Realm or are you jess funnin us.
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Astronomy Junior Member (Idle past 2231 days) Posts: 25 Joined: |
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Modulous Member (Idle past 243 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
in Spiritual Realm is only one Law - Sovereign Will of God. How do you know this?How do you know that it is not the Sovereign Will of God that there be conservation in heaven? If the standard, academic, totally accepted mathematics in my researchgate paper can prove anything a man would like (by twisting formulares and words), then please disprove me using math. It'd probably be best if you submitted it for peer review to a journal on the Master Journal List so someone who gets paid to wade through that can take the time to do it. If you can't bring your argument here, I'm not going to address it. Creation Science Magic however, can be invoked to explain anything a man would like. I've seen it done, it's quite trivial.
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jar Member (Idle past 97 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm sorry but adults do not debate using YouTube videos.
What evidence the there that there is any Spiritual Realm or are you jess funnin us.
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Astronomy Junior Member (Idle past 2231 days) Posts: 25 Joined: |
If the laws of Heaven are different from laws in Nature, then:
1. I does not matter, I am talking, that Laws of Nature are violated without Heaven. If you agree, then you are not atheist. How come? If you are not atheist, then you are not my subject. My subjects are people who need to be saved from hell. 2. If the laws in two places (Heaven and Nature) are different, then the laws are violated. But that is my point. The only non-violated Law is the Sovereign Will of God.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9582 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
Astronomy writes: If you are not atheist, then you are not my subject. My subjects are people who need to be saved from hell. I'm an atheist. But you're not going to save me with this rabid crap. Is this the best you've got?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Modulous Member (Idle past 243 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
If the laws of Heaven are different from laws in Nature A speculative condition which we cannot resolve.
I does not matter, I am talking, that Laws of Nature are violated without Heaven. If you are saying that your theorem
quote: doesn't matter - then I agree. But you haven't advanced the argument that laws of nature are violated.
If the laws in two places (Heaven and Nature) are different, then the laws are violated. Erm, no. They are only violated if something happens in one domain that is against the rules that dominate that domain. If someone does something in Heaven that would be a violation of natural laws - no violation has taken place since Heaven is not the natural world. In analogy - I could be breaking (and almost certainly am) the law in Saudi Arabia - but no violation has really occurred because I'm not in Saudi Arabia. That said, if you really want to call some event in Heaven a violation of natural laws - then that's fine I can work with that. We just need to understand how you know that the event happened. But if you want to say all events always break a specific law - then you have a lot more work to do to demonstrate that universal statement.
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Astronomy Junior Member (Idle past 2231 days) Posts: 25 Joined: |
"In analogy - I could be breaking (and almost certainly am) the law in Saudi Arabia - but no violation has really occurred because I'm not in Saudi Arabia."
A man lives in New-York in 2018. The law is the Newton Second Law am=F. Now arrives 2019 and the law became violated by spiritual K=0.0001 [N]: am=F+0.0001. So, you have two distinct places in spacetime, which have two different laws. But in moving coordinate system these places also have difference in spatial position. Thus, having two different laws in two different places means the violation of the law am=F by spiritual force K.
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Modulous Member (Idle past 243 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
Thus, having two different laws in two different places means the violation of the law am=F by spiritual force K. Well I'd argue in that situation that we're simply mistaken about the law, not that a law of nature was violated. For instance, Relativity already shows us Newtonian laws are only an approximation - thus fast moving objects 'violate' Newtonian laws - but that's because Newtonian laws are just human approximations of actual natural law. If am=F + K is accurate then that's the natural law. But more to the point - how does this advance your argument? We haven't ascertained that K, should it exist, is spiritual - nor have we verified that K is not zero.
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Astronomy Junior Member (Idle past 2231 days) Posts: 25 Joined: |
Well, to talk about spiritual K I need to prove God. Correct? If the Omniscient Being exists, He knows about own existence. But because He is Omniscient, in Omnisciency exists knowledge of His existence.
The Law am=F holds for situations of low velocity in 2018, if in such and similar situations in 2019 would start to hold am=F+0.001 instead, then the law is definitely changed. Edited by Astronomy, : No reason given.
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Modulous Member (Idle past 243 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
Well, to talk about spiritual K I need to prove God. Correct? If the Omniscient Being exists, He knows about own existence. But because He is Omniscient, in Omnisciency exists knowledge of His existence. Well proving God would be a start, yes. Because if the Omniscient Being does not exist, there is nothing that knows of its existence.
The Law am=F holds for situations of low velocity in 2018, if in such and similar situations in 2019 would start to hold am=F+0.001 instead, then the law is definitely changed. OK. And how does this advance your argument?
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Astronomy Junior Member (Idle past 2231 days) Posts: 25 Joined: |
If body follows in 2018 the law am=F, and in 2019 it does not follow the law am=F, then the law am=F is violated.
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