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# Time Dilation, the Hubble Shift and God's Eternal Universe

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 Message 1 of 189 (834618) 06-08-2018 1:38 PM

If we derive the Hubble Constant as a 2.2686*10^-18 s/s acceleration in the rate of proper time, instead of a spatial acceleration, and then apply that acceleration to the time elements of Einstein’s Tensor, we eliminate singularities and infinite expansions because the geodesics are slightly distorted:

Where t1 = coordinate time and t0 = proper time, the time elements Δt1 / Δt0 become: ((((Δt1*(((1 +((Δt1 / Δt0) * (2.2686*10^-18)))) / ((Δt0 * (1 + (Δt0 * 2.2686*10^-18).

For each second of Δt0 this becomes: ((Δt1*(1 + 2.2686*10^-18 Δt1)) / ((1 + (2.2686*10^-18))

This manifests as a net acceleration of the proper time relative to the coordinate time as the dilation gradient deepens and Δt1 → 0. This prevents the subsequent formation of a singularity in a Big Crunch scenario both within a black hole, where instead of a singularity we see the ever-tightening spiraling evolution, or the universe as a whole, which, as below, we see spiraling off in all directions in the galaxies.

Obversely, as Δt1 → ∞, infinite divergence is impossible as Δt1 is always divided by a sum > 1; i.e., ∞ / (1 + 2.2686*10^-18) < ∞.

Looking outward to the past, we see a finite divergence as older, slower, galaxies slip from view as time appears to stop, as we appear to evolve inward towards the event horizon of the black hole at the center of the Milky Way in the spiraling convergence of General Relativity, but without the creation of a singularity. Each galaxy therefore is a branching of the forward evolution of the universe.

As we approach an apparent event horizon it recedes because we cannot get to a place where the rate of time is anything but 1 s/s due to the EP. Traveling outward, older frames would come back into view. Approaching a black hole, as time appears to slow the length of a meter must lengthen to maintain c. Since time keeps slowing and lengths keep lengthening, it is not possible to reach the event horizon. Space just keeps spreading out in the spiral ahead of the observer. If we consider the apparent event horizon of galactic black holes to be an edge of the universe, as it is looking outward, then each event horizon is the gateway to universes ad infinitum.

Moving on quickly to gravity: Space evolves forward with time. This makes time the fundamental force of the universe. First, we consider Einstein’s Fundamental Metric to be the basis of the tensors forming a null gravitational field that represents that fundamental evolution of space over time. When we introduce a dilation gradient, we also see an evolution down the gradient. This is why gravity only has one direction and why it overpowers the other forces so easily even though it is so weak. It is an irresistible evolutionary force in time.

Dilation gradients can only be orthogonal to the fundamental direction of evolution, FDE, because spacetime is an evolving continuum and there is no space “ahead of” or “behind” the evolving continuum for the dilation gradient to appear “in”. The gradient can only appear “across” the FDE as viewed by an outside observer. Likewise, objects cannot move “through” space except along the dilation gradients. This is the fundamental flaw in perception in current astrophysics.

Einstein’s Fundamental Metric

... X Y Z T
X -1 0 0 0
Y 0 -1 0 0
Z 0 0 -1 0
T 0 0 0 +1

A particle moves in a straight line in this Fundamental Metric, where there is no time dilation; where the time-time element g44 = +1, which is an invariant 1 s/s rate in all frames, the same rate we each experience in our inertial frame as we evolve along our worldline. It represents a null gravitational field. Though a useful tool in GR, Einstein admits this metric most likely cannot exist in finite space. If it did, there would just be a single, infinitesimal, particle, and it would have a zero velocity, regardless of the X, Y, Z components of the metric, as there would be nothing to relate its motion to. Space would appear flat and have no dimensions as there would be nothing else to relate distance to. He considers this situation to be in vacuo. In saying this state probably cannot exist in a finite region, he is confirming the author’s conjecture that the spacetime continuum is energetic. It cannot be otherwise.

Because no motion would be apparent in the Fundamental Metric, it can be reduced to just the time-time element, g44, which is simply TT = 1. An observer existing in this state would only be aware of time passing. The observer’s space would be evolving forward with time, but that would be undetectable. The author calls this the IATIA state: “I Am That I Am”. This will raise some objections, but it must be noted that our reality is an illusion being manifested out of superposition waveforms that only take on forms that are dependent on an observer being present. Again, as per Einstein, “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”.

The author has had proof positive in his life experience that what he is about to say is true: faith gives us divine power. Doctors depend on it and casino owners hate it. This has also been proven by others, repeatedly, throughout the world, throughout history, in the laboratory of life, which he believes should satisfy scientific criteria. Miracles do happen.

This is because spacetime is created by the awareness of being “here”, space, and “now”, time. There is a primary awareness that exists only because it is aware of time passing. No light, no senses, just self-awareness. This is the “I Am That I Am”.

This is a horrible state of being. The worst thing we do to people is to put them in solitary confinement.

Fortunately, it can imagine light and alter its perception of rates of time to stretch the light to give its space depth and otherwise manipulate the light to create worlds that it can incarnate itself into, “losing” itself to escape its eternal loneliness and pass its eternity. All life forms are just different points of view, different perspectives for that single awareness. Hence, we are all one in it and we are all its children and, hence, in faith we have divine power.

Because we are all one in it, it harmonizes our universes. This explains non-locality. Alice and Bob have harmonized experiences, regardless of the apparent distance between them, because they are one-and-the-same in the Creator that is harmonizing their points of view.

The universe evolves forward beneficially for us when we believe it will. We are all brought forth as infants who must be carefully succored and this initiates us into faith. We are born into a totally loving, caring, supportive world. A guilty conscience initiates doubt, which is the opposite of faith, and it can manifest devastating effects.

The science is part of the illusion, but it enables us to manipulate things in such a way as to make our lives much fuller and better in innumerable ways. Ultimately, though, it works because we believe it does.

The reason we all hate boredom and fear loneliness is because we are of and from that eternally alone being. If you would know the Creator, know yourself.
The Kingdom of Heaven is within you. It is your faith that makes you whole. If you want proof, ask for something reasonable. Don’t forget to say, “Thank you”, when you get it.

If you would like to see these concepts developed, along with an explanation of galactic rotation velocities, my full, 21-page, paper, “General Relativity: Effects in Time as Causation”, can be found here:
http://vixra.org/abs/1804.0109.

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 Message 2 of 189 (834620) 06-09-2018 1:01 AM

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Thread copied here from the Time Dilation, the Hubble Shift and God's Eternal Universe thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

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 Message 3 of 189 (834750) 06-10-2018 6:06 PM

Who?
What observer's proper time does t refer to and what class of observers does the coordinate time t_1 correspond to?

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 Message 4 of 189 (834753) 06-10-2018 6:17 PM Reply to: Message 1 by Captcass06-08-2018 1:38 PM

 Captcass writes:I am posting here in the hopes that the spiritual folks here will bring it to the attention of spiritual scientists, who will then spread it on through the Godless scientific community. Of course the Godless mainstream Big Bang journals will not touch it.

I am not in any way at all qualified to comment on this whole topic. I would as a Christian like to comment on the part that I have quoted.

Firstly, those statements are not at all conducive to inviting respectful dialogue.

Secondly calling the scientific community godless is wrong. The scientific community by several studies is just as likely to be theistic, or even Christian, as the overall community.

Thirdly, science isn't about finding God, but it is about finding the processes that have resulted in this universe and the life in it that we experience. We can argue about whether it is all of divine origin or not, but that is a very different discussion.

Welcome to EvC.

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He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8

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 Message 5 of 189 (834807) 06-12-2018 2:47 PM Reply to: Message 4 by GDR06-10-2018 6:17 PM

Thank you for the reply.
That section was meant only for the moderator, it will be edited out of the post if the post is accepted.

Sadly, I must disagree. You will not find a single scientific journal that will accept a paper that acknowledges God. I realize just as many scientists belief in God as non-scientists, but it is sadly considered anathema to mention it in research. God is fairly well excluded from science.

I strongly disagree about what science is for. Science has been struggling with the origins of life forever.

The Big Bang originating out of an undefined singularity and an infinite, accelerating, expansion of the universe are not conducive to the concept of an eternal Creator.

My paper describes an eternally evolving continuum, instead. As per my paper, spacetime originates with the Creator being aware of itself existing here, which is space, and now, which is time. As the Creator is eternal, spactime is also eternal, as is the universe that is manifested out of space over time.

When the science returns to God, the people will return to God.

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 Message 6 of 189 (834808) 06-12-2018 2:56 PM Reply to: Message 3 by Son Goku06-10-2018 6:06 PM

Re: Who?
Proper time is always the time of the inertial frame of the observer: i.e., you experience proper time, but see me as having coordinate time. I experience proper time, but see you as having coordinate time.

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 Message 7 of 189 (834809) 06-12-2018 3:41 PM Reply to: Message 5 by Captcass06-12-2018 2:47 PM

Is This Science Going Anywhere?
 Captcass writes: You will not find a single scientific journal that will accept a paper that acknowledges God. I realize just as many scientists belief in God as non-scientists, but it is sadly considered anathema to mention it in research. God is fairly well excluded from science.
Which is because faith is different from evidence. There has thus far been no way to provide evidence that there is a God. God cannot simply be introduced into any given research paper based on faith.
 I strongly disagree about what science is for. Science has been struggling with the origins of life forever.
What specifically do you think that science should be for?
 My paper describes an eternally evolving continuum, instead. As per my paper, spacetime originates with the Creator being aware of itself existing here, which is space, and now, which is time. As the Creator is eternal, spacetime is also eternal, as is the universe that is manifested out of space over time.
Would you say that your paper defines a pantheistic concept of God more so than a monotheistic concept? Why or why not?

And I am beginning to question why this topic is in Big Bang and Cosmology rather than Faith & Belief, but let's roll with it for now.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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 Message 8 of 189 (834810) 06-12-2018 3:43 PM Reply to: Message 6 by Captcass06-12-2018 2:56 PM

Re: Who?
 Proper time is always the time of the inertial frame of the observer: i.e., you experience proper time, but see me as having coordinate time. I experience proper time, but see you as having coordinate time.
So if God is the initial observer, how did you come to have a ringside seat from which to write your theory?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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 Message 9 of 189 (834846) 06-13-2018 5:46 PM Reply to: Message 7 by Phat06-12-2018 3:41 PM

Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
Please advise how to get a quaote from someone else in my response, like you did quoting me.

The evidence of God is plain to see throughout history. There is just no "scientific" evidence. My theory thus begins with the Creator and shows that science can support such an origin, instead.

Science tells us how the world works. We can never understand that unless we recognize its true spiritual origin.

No, this is not pantheism. It is monotheism.

I am not here to discuss these issues. Please read the paper if you want to discuss it.

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 Message 10 of 189 (834847) 06-13-2018 5:51 PM Reply to: Message 8 by Phat06-12-2018 3:43 PM

Re: Who?
We all have a ringside seat. Read the paper if you want to discuss it.

Ask and you shall receive. Knock and the door shall open.

I have known the truth since I was 24. I am 68 now. The trick has been in tying quantum physics and relativity to that truth. That has taken a lot of time and study.

I find this question offensive. I am not here to defend myself or my spiritual views, or what science is for. I am here to share, and discuss, my paper with those who take the time to read it.

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 Message 11 of 189 (834848) 06-13-2018 5:54 PM Reply to: Message 9 by Captcass06-13-2018 5:46 PM

Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
I am not being notified when someone posts although I checked the email notification box on the original post. How to I set it up so each reply gives me a notification? Do I have to do that with each reply?
Thanks.

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 Message 12 of 189 (834849) 06-13-2018 6:48 PM Reply to: Message 6 by Captcass06-12-2018 2:56 PM

Re: Who?
Let me make this simpler. What class of observers does the coordinate time correspond to?

The coordinate time has to set up in reference to some class of observers, defining their time and space coordinates as the ones used for calculation.

Innately in relativity or physics in general, you don't have coordinates until you introduce them via a set of observers.

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 Message 13 of 189 (834850) 06-13-2018 6:50 PM Reply to: Message 1 by Captcass06-08-2018 1:38 PM

 Einstein’s Fundamental Metric... X Y Z TX -1 0 0 0Y 0 -1 0 0Z 0 0 -1 0T 0 0 0 +1A particle moves in a straight line in this Fundamental Metric, where there is no time dilation; where the time-time element g44 = +1, which is an invariant 1 s/s rate in all frames, the same rate we each experience in our inertial frame as we evolve along our worldline. It represents a null gravitational field. Though a useful tool in GR, Einstein admits this metric most likely cannot exist in finite space. If it did, there would just be a single, infinitesimal, particle, and it would have a zero velocity, regardless of the X, Y, Z components of the metric, as there would be nothing to relate its motion to. Space would appear flat and have no dimensions as there would be nothing else to relate distance to. He considers this situation to be in vacuo. In saying this state probably cannot exist in a finite region, he is confirming the author’s conjecture that the spacetime continuum is energetic. It cannot be otherwise.

This isn't true, you can have motion in Minkowski spacetime (the flat space whose metric you are referring to as "the Fundamental metric") it just doesn't have gravity.

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 Message 14 of 189 (834855) 06-13-2018 7:12 PM Reply to: Message 13 by Son Goku06-13-2018 6:50 PM

Let me answer both replies here. (Still don't know how to quote)

Proper time always refers to an observer's rate of time in his own inertial frame. This is the same rate for all observers in their inertial frames as per the EP.

Coordinate time refers to the rate of time at any other set of coordinates. If we are observing each other, I have proper time and you have coordinate time and vice versa for you.

Einstein uses the Fundamental Metric to set up GR. He admits the metric cannot exist in finite space because it represents a null gravitational field and there is no such thing in finite space in an energetic continuum. It represents a straight line evolution. He then notes that any substitutions in the metric result in curvature of motion.

I am taking GR to another level. Einstein thought his equations describing gravity were somehow "what gravity is". He did not see the evolution down gradient I see.

I am saying the Fundamental Metric, representing a null gravitational field, is what we experience within ourselves. It also can apply to the universe as a whole, infinite space, as the rate of time of the universe as a whole is unitary.

It will help you understand if you read the whole paper. What I posted here is just some of the main points and lacks much of the developmental reasoning.

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 Message 15 of 189 (834856) 06-13-2018 9:55 PM Reply to: Message 9 by Captcass06-13-2018 5:46 PM

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Per your problem of not getting e-mail notifications - I checked your profile setup and found nothing wrong there. You should be receiving notifications of replies to your messages at your e-mail as indicated in your personal profile.

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