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Author Topic:   The Evolution Theory is a Myth Equivalent to the Flat Earth Theory
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Message 16 of 248 (836056)
07-09-2018 3:57 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by forexhr
07-09-2018 3:37 AM


Re: Blogging From the Beyond
Forexhr writes:

What I have said (and proved) is that it is impossible for this process to result in "previously non-existent biological functions, like visual or auditory perception, respiration, locomotion, liquid pumping, processing sensory information, inserting, deleting, or replacing DNA sequences, etc."

You appear to be in the difficult position of showing mathematically that the bee can't fly. Unfortuantely for you the bee, even though it has no mathematical training, knows that your numbers are wrong and goes about its business regardless.


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Message 19 of 248 (836066)
07-09-2018 8:46 AM
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07-09-2018 4:08 AM


Re: Blogging From the Beyond
Forexhr writes:

I wasn't showing mathematically that the bee can't fly, but instead, that the flying function of the bee cannot result from the molecular recombinations in a gene pool of the population which lacks this function. You should read the article again.

“I applied the laws of air resistance to insects, and I arrived with Mr. ST LAGUE at the conclusion that their flight is impossible.”
Antoine Magnan 1934

The level of straw man arguments in this topic is staggering.

Either you have no sense of irony and analogy or you have no knowledge of science and science history. Most likely both.

To simplify the concept for you, telling people that you have mathematical proof of something that is a factual reality points to your sums being wrong, not reality being wrong.


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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 62 of 248 (836316)
07-15-2018 5:17 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Faith
07-15-2018 1:22 AM


Re: No New Functions?
Faith writes:

Besides which wings are usually part of a whole different kind of body structure than arms are. All that has to be modified. Not something mutations could accomplish it seems to me.

Bat or some bloke down the pub with big hands?


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Message 163 of 248 (836666)
07-21-2018 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 161 by forexhr
07-21-2018 4:40 AM


Re: Wrong again
forexhr writes:

Neither your question has something to do with the subject of this topic nor I know what scientists fail to see or fail to understand, since I cannot read their minds.

You don't need to read their minds, read their papers.

Your problem is that you're here on an amateur forum explaining why one of the most famous and long-standing theories in all of science is wrong. And that you have a mathematical proof of it. Outstanding work.

Why are you not opening this to peer review and publishing it in Nature? Why aren't you debating this at the Royal Society? This is Nobel Prize territory.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 165 of 248 (836674)
07-21-2018 7:19 AM
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07-21-2018 5:01 AM


Re: Wrong again
Forexhr writes:

Ha, ha, ha,... That would be like Nobel Prize for showing that the Earth is not flat, or that the Earth is bigger than the Moon.

Proving the earth is not flat when most people thought it was is actually a very useful thing to have done. But it seems you just want to mess around with words, not facts.


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"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 173 of 248 (836724)
07-21-2018 4:41 PM


And Tangle is wondering why the man is dicking around on a hobbyist forum when he has the most important scientific proof for a century all wrapped up.

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"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 179 of 248 (836791)
07-22-2018 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Faith
07-21-2018 6:09 PM


Faith writes:

My guess is he would like to have some reasonable discussion with reasonable knowledgeable people in order to sharpen up his argument before trying it out at the professional level.

If he wasn't just another creationist nutter with a half-arsed, bullshit 'proof' he would be talking to accademics that might have an interest in his numbers. He'd then try to get something published.

Instead he turns up at a science v religion forum and tells everybody that the ToE is the equivalent of Flat Earth Theory. Nope, he's just another drive-by nutter.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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