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Faith 
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Message 16 of 277 (836641)
07-20-2018 5:26 PM
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07-20-2018 3:41 PM


OK, the press is free, free to give up on all their once-admirable standards of objectivity and fairness when something happens that so seriously challenges their leftist proclivities like the election of Donald Trump.; Then they seem to have decided that it's more important to defy the will of half the country and distort the news or outright lie to bring him down.

Pirro points out that Trump used to be hugely popular with the press and often presented him in a good light. She says he hasn't changed but once he won the Presidency on a conservative platform they committed to bringing him down. It's been obvious that this is going on to most of us on my side. There is a journalistic blitzkrieg going on and it is truly unprecedented.

I don't know about an international conspiracy but that might be true too. However, given Europe's leftist proclivities, such as their suicidal attitude toward their immigrant anti-European Muslim problem, it isn't surprising that they would oppose Trump's America First views.

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Message 17 of 277 (836650)
07-20-2018 5:54 PM
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07-20-2018 5:16 PM


Faith writes:

Me and Jeanine Pirro and all the millions who voted for Trump. We're all crazy, right? Crazy, stupid, whatever.


Give your head a shake. That's exactly what you're saying about the people who disagree with you. Why is it wrong when I say it and right when you say it?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Faith 
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Message 18 of 277 (836654)
07-20-2018 6:06 PM
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07-20-2018 5:54 PM


Cuz I'm right?

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Message 19 of 277 (836657)
07-20-2018 8:30 PM
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07-20-2018 6:06 PM


There's almost as good money writing conspiracy books as in living off the Christian Cult of Ignorance.

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Message 20 of 277 (836658)
07-20-2018 8:58 PM
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07-20-2018 5:16 PM


Faith writes:

Me and Jeanine Pirro and all the millions who voted for Trump. We're all crazy, right? Crazy, stupid, whatever.

In the context of Pirro's book, who knows if you're all crazy or stupid or both. You haven't mentioned a single specific thing about it. I did read chapter one, and it's full of lies and absent any substance, so my suspicion is that anyone who finds chapter one convincing already believes that kind of silly stuff anyway and is a sucker for conspiracy theories.

--Percy


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Message 21 of 277 (836659)
07-20-2018 10:17 PM
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07-20-2018 8:58 PM


In the context of Pirro's book, who knows if you're all crazy or stupid or both. You haven't mentioned a single specific thing about it. I did read chapter one, and it's full of lies and absent any substance, so my suspicion is that anyone who finds chapter one convincing already believes that kind of silly stuff anyway and is a sucker for conspiracy theories.

I'm sure you're right, those who are convinced by her already think that way, it's just nice to see it confirmed by someone else. Not that it's new, the Right has been taking note of this for some time now, but it's satisfying to have it all in one place like her book. We all agree about all of this, we can see what's going on quite clearly though we do appreciate those in the public eye who say it out loud.

It would also be nice if some of those on the left might recognize that there really are a lot of us who see things this way and consider that maybe there's something to it. But I guess not, we're all just crazy or stupid or both.

There really are conspiracies, especially these days, particularly on the Left.

Say, I've been good and stayed off your Trump-Bashing thread since you requested it of me; I wonder if you would be so kind as to stay off this one?

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Message 22 of 277 (836660)
07-21-2018 2:15 AM
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07-20-2018 10:17 PM


If you are right ?

Well if it was really true - rather than a pack of lies you love to hear - you ought to be able to honestly address all the problems in Trumps record as President. And Percy hasn’t even listed all of them.

Or maybe you mean that we should join you before the Right turns to violent oppression. That is where this is going. That is the point of these lies. Just like the Nazis promoted anti-Semitic theories and persecuted the Jews.

You’re on the side of evil, Faith, and you love it.


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Faith 
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Message 23 of 277 (836663)
07-21-2018 4:36 AM
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07-21-2018 2:15 AM


The Left is the Oppressor these days
As I started out saying I have been avoiding politics, I don't have any stomach for what is being said and done against Trump, it is clear to me that there is a conspiracy to bring him down with all those accusations and I can't do anything about it and I don't need the ulcer so I don't follow it. But I know enough to appreciate what Pirro is saying.

It isn't just from the Democrats, but also fake Republicans, but in general it's right to say that the oppression and violence are from the Left. It's been coming from the Left since Trump was elected and it's the quiet nonviolent conservatives who have been suffering from it. This idea that it comes from the right is some kind of weird propaganda. Clueless. There has been no sign of it yet, and all the violence that has happened has come from the Left. The Left is Fascist these days, not the Right. See the quote from Reagan in my signature. that's where the evil is today.

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2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...

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If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan


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Message 24 of 277 (836668)
07-21-2018 5:04 AM
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07-21-2018 4:36 AM


Re: The Left is the Oppressor these days
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As I started out saying I have been avoiding politics, I don't have any stomach for what is being said and done against Trump, it is clear to me that there is a conspiracy to bring him down with all those accusations and I can't do anything about it and I don't need the ulcer so I don't follow it. But I know enough to appreciate what Pirro is saying.

And it is clear to me that the conspiracy is a hypocritical lie from people who have been hurling false accusations at the “Left” (which includes the centre-Right) for years.

Need I point out that the Pizzagate fiction is a long way from the reports of Trump’s misdealings with Kim Jong-Un or Putin ? Or the mess over the repeal of Obamacare or Trumps hiring of Flynn and Manafort and Cohen ?

Need I point out again that you have no answer to the points Percy raised ? “Staying out of politics” is not a valid excuse for having no answer.

quote:

It isn't just from the Democrats, but also fake Republicans, but in general it's right to say that the oppression and violence are from the Left.

The alt-right seems to be more violent there was one murder at Charlottesville and the Left weren’t to blame.

It is crazy to say that the vicious liars are being persecuted by people telling the truth. That the people who told insane lies about Obama are innocent while people telling the truth about Trump are evil conspirators. But that’s where we are.


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Faith 
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Message 25 of 277 (836670)
07-21-2018 5:43 AM
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07-21-2018 5:04 AM


Re: The Left is the Oppressor these days
All that is false leftist propaganda.

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Message 26 of 277 (836671)
07-21-2018 6:22 AM
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Re: The Left is the Oppressor these days
By which you mean that it is all true, and you want to suppress it with your lies.

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Faith 
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Message 27 of 277 (836672)
07-21-2018 6:27 AM
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07-21-2018 6:22 AM


Re: The Left is the Oppressor these days
Charlottesville had nothing to do with conservatives, it was a bunch of white supremacists.

But Antifa beats people up and provokes violence wherever conservatives gather. There are still violent acts against innocent Trump supporters minding their own business. The hate and violence is all on the Left.

Everything said about Obama was true and more than that.

There is definitely a leftist conspiracy against Trump and his supporters and really, against the freedoms America always stood for.

The lies are on your side.

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Message 28 of 277 (836673)
07-21-2018 7:19 AM
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07-20-2018 10:17 PM


Faith and the Bandar-Log
Faith, you are simply singing the motto of the Bandar-Log.

quote:
We are great. We are free. We are wonderful. We are the most wonderful people in all the jungle! We all say so, and so it must be true.

Faith writes:

It would also be nice if some of those on the left might recognize that there really are a lot of us who see things this way and consider that maybe there's something to it.

We do recognize that there are lots who see things as you do and we have considered that there might be something to it but the overwhelming conclusion is that it is just the chatter of the Bandar-Log.


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Message 29 of 277 (836677)
07-21-2018 7:57 AM
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07-20-2018 5:26 PM


Faith writes:

OK, the press is free, free to give up on all their once-admirable standards of objectivity and fairness when something happens that so seriously challenges their leftist proclivities like the election of Donald Trump.; Then they seem to have decided that it's more important to defy the will of half the country and distort the news or outright lie to bring him down.

The press is the same as it's ever been, accurately reporting the news as it happens. The press has always considered what a president says or does newsworthy, so if Trump says or does it then the press reports it. Unfortunately for Trump what he says or does is usually false or malevolent or ignorant or antagonistic or hostile or belittling or mocking or bullying or counterproductive or threatening to our democratic institutions or traitorous or treasonous or some combination. He's the opposite of presidential. It's like a foreign agent is running our government.

But I guess for many none of that matters. They find the Trump act refreshing, invigorating and entertaining, a 24-hour reality show where you can always catch up on the latest Trump misadventure in any newspaper or on any news station.

The media is not bringing down Trump. He's doing that himself, and they're just reporting it as he does it.

Pirro points out that Trump used to be hugely popular with the press and often presented him in a good light.

This is false. I grew up in the New York Metropolitan area, Trump's home base. Reportage was generally negative. The press treated Trump as what he was, a self aggrandizing scumbag real estate developer. His Atlantic City shenanigans took the cake.

She says he hasn't changed...

This is true, Trump hasn't changed since his early days. He's still the same sleazeball he's always been.

...but once he won the Presidency on a conservative platform they committed to bringing him down.

Trump is driving his own downfall. The press is just reporting it as it happens.

It's been obvious that this is going on to most of us on my side.

You keep saying this while not being able to offer even a modicum of support.

There is a journalistic blitzkrieg going on and it is truly unprecedented.

Trump is committing a blitzkrieg on democratic institutions and sensibilities. The press is just reporting it.

I don't know about an international conspiracy but that might be true too.

You've never met a conspiracy theory you didn't like.

However, given Europe's leftist proclivities, such as their suicidal attitude toward their immigrant anti-European Muslim problem, it isn't surprising that they would oppose Trump's America First views.

Ah, yes, you hate those immigrants, don't you. Can't have anyone who isn't white like you coming into the country. Perhaps your love of Trump comes from your shared racism.

By the way, this defense of the free press is not a claim that it is perfect and never makes mistakes, and it's about the news portion of the free press, not the opinion pages.

--Percy


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Faith 
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Message 30 of 277 (836681)
07-21-2018 8:15 AM
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The press is NOT the same as it has always been.; A few weeks ago I heard a journalism professor on the radio talk about how the press gave up its commitment to objectivity because they judged that it was more important to bringt down Trump. I didn't need to hear that to know that the nonstop blitzkrieg attack on Trump on every news outlet was unprecedented and that something new and ugly was going on. Nothing like this has ever happened to any President before and everybody who is saying that is blind as a bat.

This is more than an attack on Trump, this is a direct assault on American freedoms.

The press is lying, distorting, spinning everything in a negative light, emphasizing trivial gaffes and blowing things out of proportion, anything they can invent to make Trump look bad. This is truly unprecedented. It's politically motivated. Whatever Trump's personal faults, this is a well funded politically motivated attempt at a coup.

And you are lying about my views of Muslims, lying through your teeth, tarring me with racist motives because that's what leftists do, you can't tell the truth you have to slather on the Political Correctness which is nothing but character assassination. Fascist Leftist Liar.

I did ask you to please leave this thread since I left yours at your request. Please do so.

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