I suspect it isn't quite what you think it is, you are just one of those willing to pounce on something he sees differently than you do although, oh for sure, the literal words are there and nothing more is needed by the left. I'm not going to read your link. If you want to make a case for ONE thing you're going to have to make it yourself.
But in my experience what you all call lies and denial is the exaggerated accusations the media lays on Trump that so distort the context of whatever he said of course he has to deny it, it doesn't represent what he meant.
Again, if you want a response to any of that you are going to have to persaonlly make the case.
Sorry, no evidence. Plain decency would respect the claim.
All I really wanted on this thread was a recognition of the utterly totally comopletely opposite point of view on the right to the one that is shared by everybody here. I did not want to debate these things because I'm not keeping up with the issues, I would just like it acknowledged that millions of us KNOW there is a leftist and media conspiracy against Trump. I don't expect you to agree with it, but I would expect the common decency of treating the opposition with enough respect to try to see it from our point of view.
There has been research done that shows an outrageously high negative news coverage of Trump as compared to coverage of any other President in recent history, twice as negative at least. No I'm not goingto provide evidence, I expect to be treated with normal human respect despite knowing I won't be. All I have to do is go to the Yahoo news page or accidentally happen to hear something on the network news to know there is something foul going on. But of course it turns out you just treat it as normal news and blame it on Trump, no recognition that you are being manipulated. I do wonder where your heads can be. But all I'm going to say is OPEN YOUR EYES IT'S EVERYWHERE. Unless I feel like digging up some examples some time. No, you all don't really care about evidence, you just rationalize it away anyway, no point.
abe; What I said to Dr. A above about what Trump's "lies" and "denials" I've experienced here personally all the time, so I have a feeling for the method. I'm accused of something, blamed for something, usually without evidence speaking of evidence, and if I do find out what I'm supposedly guilty of it's just about always something taken out of context, misinterpreted in some ridiculous way, or blown up out of all proportion out of some kind of zeal to dehumanize me.
Political Correctness is character assassination rather than respectful reasoned disagreement. It is Cultural Marxism and it is the lowest most uncivilized most evil debate tactic yet devised by the devil himself to destroy reason.
The demand for evidence is just a way of calling your opponent a liar. Civility means basic respect for others' views and maybe then we can discuss the evidence.
Half the stuff thrown at Trump is made up. More than half. NOTHING, but NOTHING has been found to link him with any kind of Russian collusion but the witch hunt goes on even after sinking to the foulest possible levels. How come the press didn't bother the Kennedys with all their womanizing? And Bill Clinton got off pretty easy too, one of the biggest abusers of women ever. The willingness of the press to trash this President on the slightest excuse is unprecedented. Wake up.
I'm not defending Trump, I refuse to have an opinion about him because of the way he's being treated. I don't care what his flaws are, the attack on him is so ridiculously out of proportion I don't want to feed it even a crumb.
OK I should speak only of Leftist ideas in your case, it is possible not to be a Leftist and yet in this current political atmosphere to get snared into thinking like a Leftist.
I did ask you to leave this thread, Percy, which considering that I left yours is the right thing for you to do.
I'm tired of the debate here. I'm tired of the uncivil behavior which is now shared and even encouraged by you and the other admins though you deny it and justify it instead. Yes I'm guilty too though I would argue that I aim at ideas far more than at people.
No I'm sick of having to account for everything, I'm sick of the implications that a person can't just give an opinion and be treated with respect. No, you don't get away with dismissing Pirro's first chapter as a bunch of lies, no. I'm not playing any more.
There's a "versus" in the title of EvC but it's way overplayed. You put up the headline "Understanding through Discussion" but you obviously don't believe it or intend to honor it. Go ahead keep ripping my character and calling it debate, that's all anybody here is really good at. No, if anyone wants to discuss any of this you have to discuss it as if there is real observation and good judgment on the side of your opponents. Otherwise forget it, I'm not playing.
ABE: All the ways this can be distorted just came to mind so I'm sure I can expect a few pages of utter weirdness to follow instead of a sincere attempt to get what I'm saying in the spirit and perspective I intend.
Actually the whole book is a "rant," yes I did buy the kindle version. It has plenty of content though, but it is an opinion piece, statement after tstatement of the conservative point of view.
Most of the topics don't really lend themselves to evidence, they are judgment calls. She sometimes mentions various indications that she reads in support of her opinion, such as the outrageous total blitz against Trump in every news outlet. You can't expect the press to come out and say "we're dedicated to taking down Trump no matter what rules of journalism and basic human decency we have to violate." So you read the signs and interpret them according to your viewpoint.