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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's not worth it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, it's those who disagree with me who need to hear the opposing point of view.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I could certainly ask my opponents the same question. Very few of the "facts" that are reported in the news stand as simple facts.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
For reasons I believe I've given clearly enough, I'm content if I can simply state my opinion to get it on the table.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I've told you before, I only go by Trump's own words. I don't pay any attention to commentators. Out of his own mouth and tweety-fingers, he's an idiot, a racist, a misogynist, a liar, an ignoramus, etc. This is nave at best. It is Trump's own words that get misinterpreted, taken out of context and so on. This happens to me ALL THE TIME here, I mean ALL the time, the times anyone gets what I mean add up to about, oh, half a dozen over all the years I've posted here, so there's nothing odd about it happening to Trump, especially when those reporting on him or reacting to him hold a leftist worldview that completely opposes his worldview.
If news sources, fake or otherwise have noticed the same thing, that might be because it's true. Not with a leftist press, no.
And by the way, I actually agree with Trump on a couple of things, so don't accuse me of being an ideologue. Well, but the rest of what you said is pretty standard leftist. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He believed what he said.
Please don't overgeneralize what I say, there are always exceptions. You are doing to me what is done to Trump by coming up with that example that ISN'T about worldview. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He believed what he said. Trump makes mistakes, he misstates things, he's not careful about his words as he should be, he's not cautious enough in the face of what he should know by now about his opposition, but most of us who voted for him think he's basically honest, we know he is not a racist and that those accusations are spun from illconsidered comments that have nothing to do with race, and we think he really cares about the things he supported in his campaign speeches, which we also care about. It's too bad he's got moral problems with women but if you compare him to Clinton or Kennedy I'm not sure he's worse than either of them and the main difference is that the press left them alone for the most part, but they're ravening wolves against Trump.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There are those who would argue with you about those things but I think I'll just cut to the chase:
It's too bad then that Trump was the only candidate among the Republicans who spoke for conservative middle America, all the others being mealy-mouthed or RINOs or liberals in Republican garb. And we still see him as sincerely on our side. The ONLY one we've ever heard "tell it like it is" from our point of view. Even the conservatives who are less than thrilled with him as a personality still feel that way about his platform. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Do you doubt that conservatives feel this way about his political stance?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You're talking about the half of the country that voted for Trump. I don't think you'd much like the adjectives i'd attach to the other half of the country, so perhaps we shouldn't go there.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Golly gosh, that must be why the other half of the country was so blindsided by Trump's win, just no clue to how he appealed to so many of us. And still does.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The more you trash the man the more those on my side just regroup against you. The man is human, with a sincere love of America that we don't see on the Left, and a sincere desire to "make America great again" which is far from the Left's thinking, and his ideas about how to do that might not be feasible but his desire to bring them about makes him a good guy.
If there hadn't been such a steep slide from old fashioned liberal Democrats to frank Marxist-Communist anti-Americanism since the sixties, we might not have had to be content with a flawed man like Trump. But he IS the only one who sees these things as we do. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You can argue all you like, that isn't going to change how supporters of Trump see him.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Keep up the politically correct character assassination and you just keep widening the political chasm. that kind of rhetoric has also been provoking the anti-Trump violence that is still happening.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
See my comment above. You are just indulging in politically correct slander which does not serve the interests of anybody, let alone the nation.
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