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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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And so you show again that you are in love with lies and hate.
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quote: Unfortunately for you they are.
quote: By which you mean they refuse to be propagandists for the Trump regime.
quote: What ridiculous rationalisations ? I note that you refuse to deal with Percy’s points - which deal with things that Trump has actually done. Just accept it, lying isn’t working.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
If you are right ?
Well if it was really true - rather than a pack of lies you love to hear - you ought to be able to honestly address all the problems in Trumps record as President. And Percy hasn’t even listed all of them. Or maybe you mean that we should join you before the Right turns to violent oppression. That is where this is going. That is the point of these lies. Just like the Nazis promoted anti-Semitic theories and persecuted the Jews. You’re on the side of evil, Faith, and you love it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: And it is clear to me that the conspiracy is a hypocritical lie from people who have been hurling false accusations at the Left (which includes the centre-Right) for years. Need I point out that the Pizzagate fiction is a long way from the reports of Trump’s misdealings with Kim Jong-Un or Putin ? Or the mess over the repeal of Obamacare or Trumps hiring of Flynn and Manafort and Cohen ? Need I point out again that you have no answer to the points Percy raised ? Staying out of politics is not a valid excuse for having no answer.
quote: The alt-right seems to be more violent there was one murder at Charlottesville and the Left weren’t to blame. It is crazy to say that the vicious liars are being persecuted by people telling the truth. That the people who told insane lies about Obama are innocent while people telling the truth about Trump are evil conspirators. But that’s where we are.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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By which you mean that it is all true, and you want to suppress it with your lies.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: Obvious hypocrisy. They are right wingers. They are Trump supporters. Trump was prepared to call them fine people. If you are going to lump all the Left together they are certainly part of the Right. And they certainly have a lot more to do with the conspiracy-peddling you are supporting here than anti-fa has to do with the average Democrat.
quote: That’s what you claim. But we know that there is plenty of violence from the Right. Even you know it.
quote: Even the crazy claims about a plot to detonate a nuclear bomb on American soil? All the claims of treason ? All the assertions for which there is no real evidence? How could you possibly know ? Oh right, you are an evil hater so you believe it just because it’s against Obama.
quote: Which is why the Republicans are working so hard on gerrymandering and suppressing votes, right ? Can’t let anyone from the Left win an election can you ?
quote: So says Faith, the Queen of Lies and Hate.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: I don’t think anyone disagreed with the fact that there are people on the right making such claims.
quote: Obviously you DON’T know. And you don’t care.
quote: It’s hard to understand people so dominated by hate and tribalism and pride. And I do not think that deserves respect.
quote: A president who does a bad job will be criticised, and Trump has done a worse job than any recent president. You chose to assume otherwise but why does that deserve respect ? If you cared about the issues enough to answer the criticisms of Trump then you might have a defensible view - but uninformed opinions are worthless. And that is all you offer.
quote: And yet you have no idea of whether it is manipulation or accurate reporting. You just throw accusations with your eyes tightly closed. You aren’t following the issues, you have no idea of the truth of the matter - you just make baseless accusations. You’ve admitted as much. Your view is that criticism of Trump should be silenced, whether it is true or not - by making accusations against the critics with no regard to whether the accusations are true or not. That does not deserve respect. It deserves harsh condemnation.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Yes, you are completely lacking in common decency. Although we knew that from the OP.
Common decency does not require me to take your opinion at all seriously when it is obviously false and your sole excuse for not knowing that is that you can’t be bothered to know. Common decency on the other hand would seem to forbid the endorsement of insane accusations on purely political partisan grounds. Yet you are quite willing to do THAT.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Attacks on his family? Like when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton the White House Dog?
And since fake news usually means accurate reporting that Trump or his supporters want suppressed I don’t think it is any sort of sensible measure.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Then please provide examples.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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In other words you can’t stand to see any criticism of Trump, no matter whether it is deserved or not. You neither know nor care about that.
The imaginary conspiracy is just an excuse to present yourself as righteous. You have no problem with Pizzagate even though there is no doubt that it is virtually all invented - because you are fine with spreading hate against Democrats. But when Trump acts in ways that even Newt Gingrich finds unacceptable you get upset that the media reports it. If you want to talk about bias and a lack of objectivity start with that. You’d have to look hard to find a more extreme example.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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The problem is that there isn’t a good defence for what Trump actually has done. If Trump were simply pandering to racists it would hardly be much better than being racist and there’s enough evidence that he has at least done that.
The real problem is that Trump is a terrible person.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Faith doesn’t care about journalistic standards or the truth. She only cares whether the stories are ones she likes or hates. She goes to the alternative media in part because they have such low standards - so long as they are attacking Muslims or the Left or someone else she hates she loves it.
Of course Faith has to spin it because she doesn’t like that fact, but nevertheless it is a very obvious fact. Faith hates the stories attacking Trump, she likes the idea that there is a conspiracy behind it and there really isn’t much more to it than that. Obviously she can’t sell that to anyone who doesn’t share her extreme and vicious prejudice - and not because we are blind, but because we see all too well.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Because declaring yourself to be unquestionably right - refusing to even consider evidence or argument to the contrary - shows such respect for other views,
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: Indeed, you are the worst offender.
quote: You’re just whining because people dare to criticise you, as usual.
quote: Which just means opinions - or facts -you don’t like.
quote: Much of what you say is not reasonable opinion. The whole idea of a conspiracy in the press hardly seems reasonable for a start. Especially when we add in your claims of bias, too. A widespread bias does not require a conspiracy. And then there is the fact that you will happily endorse far worse behaviour from media biased towards the far right, which makes your complaints look more than a little hypocritical.
quote: So the people you are abusing dare to truthfully criticise you. How dreadful. Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.
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