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Author Topic:   A Book about the Anti-Trump Conspiracy
Faith
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Message 247 of 277 (837281)
07-29-2018 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by NoNukes
07-29-2018 9:13 PM


Re: the problem
I made the case for his twisting his words and imputing sleazy motives to him without warrant.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Faith
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Message 250 of 277 (837289)
07-30-2018 2:07 AM
Reply to: Message 249 by PaulK
07-30-2018 12:13 AM


Re: the problem
I must say you are getting really really good at PC character assassination. Top notch there, good show. Can't even count the twists and lies in that one.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Faith
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Message 253 of 277 (837308)
07-30-2018 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by jar
07-29-2018 9:43 PM


Re: the problem
I referred to what he actually said and answered it.

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Faith
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Message 254 of 277 (837309)
07-30-2018 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 252 by Percy
07-30-2018 10:18 AM


Re: the problem
You use leftist tactics in this argument no matter what your voting record is. There are Republicans these days who have some unfortunately leftist tendencies.

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Faith
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Message 256 of 277 (837311)
07-30-2018 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 252 by Percy
07-30-2018 10:18 AM


Re: the problem
If you are attacking me PC style I will certainly focus on YOU as attacking me PC style.

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Faith
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Message 259 of 277 (837318)
07-30-2018 11:42 AM
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07-30-2018 10:51 AM


Re: Still no evidence any anti-Trump conspiracy is not just wilful mass delusion.
Why do you keep changing the subject? Percy said the things I referred to in his Message 234, imposing his own opinion on things Trump said.

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Faith
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Message 262 of 277 (837321)
07-30-2018 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by ringo
07-30-2018 11:41 AM


Re: the problem
You are denying that even a direct quote can be distorted by being taken out of context, and even a comment like his claim of having the biggest inaugural audience if only a misimpression is being blown out of proportion, and I've even seen his impression validated somewhere. And as I believe marc9000 pointed out on the other thread, simply reporting on whatever Trump says and does shows media bias if they didn't report on the exact same things said and done by other Presidents.

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Faith
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Message 263 of 277 (837322)
07-30-2018 11:48 AM
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07-30-2018 11:46 AM


Re: Still no evidence any anti-Trump conspiracy is not just wilful mass delusion.
You are out of your mind.; The evidence is in the statements. Learn to read.

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Faith
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Message 267 of 277 (837335)
07-30-2018 1:22 PM
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07-30-2018 12:32 PM


Re: Still no evidence any anti-Trump conspiracy is not just wilful mass delusion.
No, if you ONLY criticize Trump, and do it by taking his words out of context, and by refusing to gtive any benefit of the doubt, and certainly by changing his words, such as by saying he "wants to make America "white" rather than great, or that his entire motivation is to get rich and he doesn't care about his political promises, only keeping his base happily deluded, you are indulging in character assassination and I wish he'd sue you all for slander. .

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Faith
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Message 270 of 277 (837368)
07-31-2018 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 269 by Percy
07-30-2018 2:39 PM


Re: the problem
You can't just mix up political policies with personal failings as if they are all equivalent.

As I've said, I haven't been following politics lately, but I can't miss the Trump bashing by the media and the occasional conservative opinion in the midst of the leftist bombardment. But, given this admittedly inadequate position, I'll give some opinions about your opinions:

About the womanizing, Did the Left defend Clinton's womanizing? It's not something I'd want to defend but I'm more interested in his policies than his sins.

He did enact tariffs that are causing businesses hardships that are already causing layoffs.

This is a complicated issue. Perhaps it has some negative effects but there must also be positive effects or he wouldn't be doing it. You only give one side of it

He did say he takes Putin's word over his own intelligent agencies.

Again I don't know much about this, but I have heard conservative complaints about the politics of some in our intelligence agencies. In other words, perhaps he had good reason to prefer Putin's word.

He did say the North Korean problem is solved when it isn't.

That is a work in progress with what looks like some success in spite of the intransigence of the Korean dictator. He did something at least.

He did order LBGT's out of the military.

That is reasonable conservative policy in my opinion.

He did refuse to make his tax return public.

He isn't required to.

He did attack the media as the enemy of the American people.

These dsys many of us agree that they are.

He is continuously trying to obstruct and end the Mueller investigation.

There is reason to believe that Mueller is conducting a politically motivated bogus investigation.

He did cut taxes for the rich, including himself.

This is standard conservative policy to keep money in the hands of individuals where they use it for development and jobs instead of the government which just spends it.

He is causing the largest deficits in US history.

Not that I've heard. Obama already did a bang-up job on that one.

He refused to implement the Russian sanctions enacted by Congress until forced to.

Perhaps those were politically motivated too.

He did refuse to divest himself of his businesses and so is making money off the presidency, just as lawsuits now allege.

I thought he'd cooperated with whatever that requirement is. However, as Pirro points out, everybody who gets into a governemt office manages to get rich, how can that be? We're talking Democrats too. Whatever Trump is doing is just keeping his businesses operating, which isn't getting rich off bribes or whatever.

He is anti-Muslim.

No he is not. This is a typical PC lie. He wants to protect the country from violent jihad.

He is anti-black.

No he is not, he absolutely is not and the blacks who support him know this. This is the same sort of PC character assassination based on some specific incident that has nothing to do with race.

He does lie constantly.

I suspect there is a better way of understanding a lot of it.

All this can be substantiated with videos, tweets, texts of executive orders, etc.

Your misinterpretations can't be substantiated, just some raw date you misunderstand, misinterpret, twist or spin.

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Faith
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Message 272 of 277 (837411)
07-31-2018 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Percy
07-31-2018 1:12 PM


Re: the problem
Conservative political policy is not a "misdeed, lie or failing." And politically correct character assassination accounts for important things on your list -- yo9ur fault, not Trump's

Perhaps I should go post on your Trump Bashing Thread to give you an excuse to suspend me permanently to do away with the temptation to keep subjecting myself to the craziness here.


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Faith
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Message 273 of 277 (837416)
07-31-2018 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Faith
07-31-2018 8:26 PM


Re: the problem
Your reasons for saying Trump are anti-black are STUPID CONTEXT-CHALLENGED POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. Blech.

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