People (who know me) are so sick of me complaining about how 70% of the world outside of India and China belong to two religions (Christianity and Islam), so I would get those two. (My complaints about people being brainwashed cause me to talk about the "in" & "popular" things like religion)
My endless complaints about Christians and Muslims in the former India (which includes modern post independence India, plus Pakistan, Bangladesh, and - far enough back - Afghanistan) reproducing like jack rabbits while the Hindus are shrinking (down to 60% today compared to 82% 100 years ago), cause me to know several of the others.
I also constantly complain about nations like Indonesia (and Vietnam, Philippines, etc.) having Christian minorities that have a reputation for eating 1000 times more dogs (yes dogs!) than the non-Christians combined. (just ask street vendors who the customers are who buy up the dogs, and also ask the Western visitors about the post Sunday school clubbings of live dogs in the church backyards while the Asian church-going kids are traumatized about the whole thing before the Sunday meal is served to worshippers).
I got most of them (including the fast growing African nation Nigeria).
Hinduism (and its off shoots) is perhaps the world's most tolerant religion.
Will Durant said that the Islamic invasion of India was perhaps the most bloody in history.
No Hindu rule for over 1000 years till the mid 20th century.
When Hindus finally gained control of India in 1947, (the first Leader of newly Independent India)Nehru came up with the idea to use a symbol of Ashoka (who had inscriptions in Greek and Aramaic planted throughout the nation's western regions which were an "EDICT" declaring the blessings that come from having people of diverse religions in the nations of the world) on the nations flag.
The National Flag of India is a horizontal rectangular tricolour of India saffron, white and India green; with the Ashoka Chakra, a 24-spoke wheel, in navy blue at its centre. It was adopted in its present form during a meeting of the Constituent Assembly held on 22 July 1947, and it became the official flag of the Dominion of India on 15 August 1947.
quote: 68th Republic Day - Indian Flag History & Who Designed ...
The flag was proposed by Nehru at the constituent assembly on 22 July 1947 as a horizontal tricolor of deep saffron, white and dark green in equal proportions, with the Ashoka wheel in blue in the center of the white band.
In July 1946, Nehru pointedly observed that no princely state could prevail militarily against the army of independent India. In January 1947, he said that independent India would not accept the Divine right of kings, and in May 1947, he declared that any princely state which refused to join the Constituent Assembly would be treated as an enemy state. During the drafting of the Indian constitution, many Indian leaders (except Nehru) of that time were in favour of allowing each Princely state or Covenanting State to be independent as a federal state along the lines suggested originally by the Government of India act (1935). But as the drafting of the constitution progressed and the idea of forming a republic took concrete shape (because of the efforts of Nehru), it was decided that all the Princely states/Covenanting States would merge with the Indian republic. Nehru's daughter, Indira Gandhi, de-recognised all the rulers by a presidential order in 1969. But this was struck down by the Supreme Court of India. Eventually, the government by the 26th Amendment to the constitution was successful in abolishing the Princely states of India. The process began by Nehru was finally completed by his daughter by the end of 1971.
Outside of India and China, Christians are 45% of the worlds population.
Muslims and Christians are over 75% (closer to 80%)
Tell if my numbers are wrong.
And these are not tolerant religions relative to the smaller religions of Hinduism and Buddhism (and they are going to be smaller in number in 2050, the latter will shrink from 7% today down to 5% mid-century).
Netanyahu said that China doesn't have the stink of anti-Semitism like so many other places. No examples of anti-Semitism.
Many religions were able to flourish in areas with Hindu and Buddhist populations (and not much anywhere else once Christianity and Islam were firmly established post 700 CE)
Her husband was the son and brother of successive Prime Ministers of India(Indira Gandhi was her husband's mother and when she was assassinated , his only brother Rajiv Gandhi became PM)
LOOK at this soul though
Maneka Sanjay Gandhi (also spelled Menaka) (née Anand; born 26 August 1956) is the Indian Union Cabinet Minister for Women & Child Development in the Government of PM Narendra Modi. She is also an animal rights activist, environmentalist, and widow of the Indian politician Sanjay Gandhi. She has been a minister in four governments, and has authored a number of books in the areas of etymology, law and animal welfare. Maneka Gandhi is a member of the Nehru-Gandhi Family.
Maneka Gandhi published 'The Complete Book of Muslim and Parsi Names', in recognition of her husband's Zoroastrian faith.
Maneka Gandhi is a self-described environmentalist and animal rights leader in India. She has earned international awards and acclaim. She was appointed chairwoman of the Committee for the Purpose of Control and Supervision of Experiments on Animals (CPCSEA) in 1995. Under her direction, CPCSEA members carried unannounced inspections of laboratories where animals are used for scientific research were conducted.
She has filed Public Interest Litigations that have achieved the replacement of the municipal killing of homeless dogs with a sterilisation programme, the unregulated sale of airguns and a ban on mobile or travelling zoos. She currently chairs the Jury of International Energy Globe Foundation which meets annually in Austria to award the best environmental innovations of the year. She is a member of the Eurosolar Board and the Wuppertal Institute, Germany.
She started the organisation People for Animals in 1992 and it is the largest organisation for animal rights/welfare in India. Maneka Gandhi is also a patron of International Animal Rescue. While she is not a vegan, she has advocated this lifestyle on ethical and health grounds. She also anchored the weekly television program Heads and Tails, highlighting the suffering meted out to animals due to their commercial exploitation. She has also authored a book under the same title. Her other books were about Indian people names. She is a cast member for the documentary A Delicate Balance.
quote: According to Maneka Gandhi, Sanjay wanted to raise his children in the Zoroastrian faith of his family.
Remember that Indira Gandhi was the Prime Minister of India (14 January 1980 – 31 October 1984)and the daughter of the first Prime Minister Nehru. Indira had just 2 sons. One was Rajiv Gandhi who was Prime Minister from 31 October 1984 – 2 December 1989.
Sanjay was the other son of Indira.
Maneka was Sanjay's wife.
Could this lady be considered one of the reasons that Hindus have swung strongly in the direction of (almost)being a majority vegetarian religion?
(Hindus are under 80% of India but the nation is 33%-41% vegetarian while it was only (at most) 15% vegetarian during the 18th century).
India has a humane and tolerant spirit.
Zoroastrians are an outside religion (though not seen as quite as foreign, and certainly not as hostile to India, like Muslims and Christians are seen) and very tiny yet there was a slight Zoroastrian strain in the 1980s leadership.
What other nation elects religious minorities?
They even elected a Prime Minister (2005-2014) who was a member of a small minority religion that had members that murdered the female Prime Minister just 21 years earlier.
And nevermind the fact that a female was elected leader (and one who married a Zoroastrian, and do remember that females marring a male of a different religion is seen as very wicked to most of the worlds religious people - especially Christians and Muslims).
The Hindu religion is enlightened and though it is a religion with shrinking numbers of followers, it will be the majority religion in the nation that will have the world's largest population (in 2022).
A positive sign for the world.
Let us be honest about it.
The national hero seems to be the pacifist & anti-nationalist Mahatma Gandhi , who happens to be an admirer or both Asoka and the Sermon on the Mount.
Tolerance and the Hindu-Buddhist foundation of the nation India.
Here is a symbol of the tolerance enshrined into and a part of the fiber of the very nation India.
Nehru selected the Ashoka Chakra to be on the flag.
It has really does have roots all the way back to Ashoka.
quote: On 14 July 1947, the committee recommended that the flag of the Indian National Congress be adopted as the National Flag of India with suitable modifications, so as to make it acceptable to all parties and communities. It was also resolved that the flag should not have any communal undertones. The spinning wheel of the Congress flag was replaced by the Chakra (wheel) from the Lion Capital of Ashoka. According to Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, the chakra was chosen as it was representative of dharma and law. However, Jawaharlal Nehru explained that the change was more practical in nature, as unlike the flag with the spinning wheel, this design would appear symmetrical. Gandhi was not very pleased by the change, but eventually came around to accepting it.
The flag was proposed by Nehru at the Constituent Assembly on 22 July 1947 as a horizontal tricolour of deep saffron, white and dark green in equal proportions, with the Ashoka wheel in blue in the centre of the white band. Nehru also presented two flags, one in Khadi-silk and the other in Khadi-cotton, to the assembly. The resolution was approved unanimously. It served as the national flag of the Dominion of India between 15 August 1947 and 26 January 1950, and has served as the flag of the Republic of India since then.
And the Lion Capital of Ashoka needs explanation (later).
quote: The State Emblem of India, as the national emblem of India is called, is an adaptation of the Lion Capital of Ashoka at Sarnath, preserved in the Varanasi Sarnath Museum in India. A representation of Lion Capital of Ashoka was initially adopted as the emblem of the Dominion of India in December 1947. The current version of the emblem was officially adopted on 26 January 1950, the day that India became a republic.
The emblem forms a part of the official letterhead of the Government of India and appears on all Indian currency as well. It also functions as the national emblem of India in many places and appears prominently on Indian passports. The Ashoka Chakra (wheel) on its base features in the centre of the national flag of India.
The usage of the emblem is regulated and restricted under State Emblem of India (Prohibition of Improper Use) Act, 2005. No individual or private organisation is permitted to use the emblem for official correspondence.
quote: The Ashoka Chakra is a depiction of the dharmachakra; represented with 24 spokes. It is so called because it appears on a number of edicts of Ashoka, most prominent among which is the Lion Capital of Ashoka. The most visible use of the Ashoka Chakra today is at the centre of the Flag of India (adopted on 22 July 1947), where it is rendered in a navy blue colour on a white background, replacing the symbol of charkha (spinning wheel) of the pre-independence versions of the flag.
India's highest peacetime military decoration awarded for valour, courageous action or self-sacrifice away from the battlefield is also called Ashoka Chakra.
The original Lion Capital. Minus the inverted bell-shaped lotus flower, this has been adopted as the National Emblem of India, seen from another angle, showing the horse on the left and the bull on the right of the Ashoka Chakra in the circular base on which the four Indian lions are standing back to back. On the side shown here there are the bull and elephant; a lion occupies the other place. The wheel "Ashoka Chakra" from its base has been placed onto the centre of the National Flag of India.
The Lion Capital of Ashoka is a sculpture of four Asiatic lions standing back to back, on an elaborate base that includes other animals. A graphic representation of it was adopted as the official Emblem of India in 1950. It was originally placed atop the Ashoka pillar at the important Buddhist site of Sarnath by the Emperor Ashoka, in about 250 BCE. The pillar, sometimes called the Aœoka Column, is still in its original location, but the Lion Capital is now in the Sarnath Museum, in the state of Uttar Pradesh, India. Standing 2.15 metres (7 feet) high including the base, it is more elaborate than the other very similar surviving capitals of the pillars of Ashoka bearing the Edicts of Ashoka that were placed throughout India several of which feature single animals at the top; one other damaged group of four lions survives, at Sanchi.
The capital is carved out of a single block of polished sandstone, and was always a separate piece from the column itself. It features four Asiatic Lions standing back to back. They are mounted on an abacus with a frieze carrying sculptures in high relief of an elephant, a galloping horse, a bull, and a lion, separated by intervening spoked chariot-wheels. The whole sits upon a bell-shaped lotus. The capital was originally probably crowned by a 'Wheel of Dharma' (Dharmachakra popularly known in India as the "Ashoka Chakra"), with 24 spokes, of which a few fragments were found on the site. A 13th-century replica of the Sarnath pillar and capital in Wat Umong near Chiang Mai, Thailand built by King Mangrai, preserves its crowning Ashoka Chakra or Dharmachakra. The wheel on the capital, below the lions, is the model for the one in the flag of India.
This Chakra (of Ashoka)design was placed on top an actual PILLAR BY ASHOKA IN 250 B.C.E. in Sarnath.
Here we have an actual design from the rule of Ashoka!
On top a pillar that had his edicts!
Here is an edict in Asoka's own words engraved as a commandment.
All religions should reside everywhere, for all of them desire self-control and purity of heart. Rock Edict Nb7 (S. Dhammika)
Here (in my domain) no living beings are to be slaughtered or offered in sacrifice. Rock Edict Nb1 (S. Dhammika)
Contact (between religions) is good. One should listen to and respect the doctrines professed by others. Beloved-Servant-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi, desires that all should be well-learned in the good doctrines of other religions. Rock Edict Nb12 (S. Dhammika)
Re: Tolerance and the Hindu-Buddhist foundation of the nation India.
quote: Christans have also been victims of Hindu extremist violence, as Faith has mentioned
IN the first 300 days of Modi, there were apparently 43 killings (the confirmed deaths always follow that pattern for whatever year since 2014) despite supposedly 600 churches being burnt or something.
Amazing that (ancient Christians) Aramaic speaking Christians always say that they were murdered by the European Protestants and Portugal. (Not the Hindus)
Amazing that Zoroastrians were never killed by Hindus.
Amazing that there is no example of Hindus ever killing Jews in 2000 years.
Netanyahu trip highlights India’s tiny Jewish community Shrinking population, dating back some 2,000 years, hopes the Israeli PM's week-long visit will boost its profile By PETER HUTCHISON 14 January 2018, 7:46 am
These include Bene Israelis, who have the longest history in India, and Baghdadi Jews, who fled persecution in the Middle East in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Although there are no official figures, academics say India’s Jewish population peaked at around 20,000 in the mid 1940s.
Numbers have dwindled rapidly because of emigration since the creation of Israel in 1948.
India’s Jewish community hasn’t experienced the discrimination seen in other countries, a fact that Jewish historian Leora Pezarkar partly attributes to its adoption of Indian customs, dress and language.
“The community has mixed really well with the local population while not deviating from who they are as Jews,” she said.
David, whose parents fled persecution in Iraq to come to India 125 years ago, says he has never experienced or heard of anyone being a victim of anti-Semitism in India.
2 Quotes from Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu on India and China
India, Israel will never give in to terror, says Benjamin Netanyahu: Full text of Israeli PM's speech
Jan 15, 2018 20:58:16 IST
In his address at Hyderabad House of Delhi during his six-day visit to India, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu recalled "the horrific savagery in Mumbai(26/11 attacks)" and said India and Israel "will never give in and will fight back". He noted that India's Jews have never experienced anti-Semitism and mentioned this as an example of tolerance in India. He said that India and Israel are ushering a 'new era' in the bilateral relations between the two countries. Here is the full text of the Israeli prime minister's speech.
"Thank you my friend, Prime Minister Modi, Narendra. Thank you for your exceptional friendship and hospitality that you showed me, my wife, and our delegation. I was deeply moved today in the celebration at the ceremony. It was an expression not only of the honor you showed me but the honor you showed the people of Israel and the State of Israel. You are a revolutionary leader in the best sense of the word 'revolution'. You are revolutionizing India. You are catapulting this magnificent state into the future and you have revolutionized the relationship between Israel and India.
I'm the son of a historian. Our peoples have had thousands of years of history. India and Israel are two of the most ancient civilizations on earth and yet it is an amazing fact that until you visited Israel no leader of India in 3,000 years of our own sovereign existence and our history has visited Israel. You are the first leader of a state, of an Indian state to do this. So it was a groundbreaking visit. It excited the imaginations of all Israelis and of course of the many Israelis of Indian descent, of origin, who came and were…how shall I say this…well I thought I was in a rock concert but it was a historic event as well.
We are ushering today a new era in our relations. We've had diplomatic relations for 25 years but something different is happening now because of your leadership and because of our partnership. There are three things that bind our countries together: The first is that we have an ancient past. The second is that we have a vibrant present. And the third is that we are seizing together a promising future. We are proud of our past, our rich histories, our peoples' contributions to human civilization in language, in literature, in mathematics and medicine, in philosophy and faith. The greatest texts that human beings produced are in Sanskrit and in Hebrew. None greater and none more enduring and we never forget this.
More recently, you mentioned, just a century ago, brave Indian soldiers played a vital role in the liberation of the State of Israel and the land of Israel. This led to our Independence. And yesterday I was again deeply moved as we paid tribute to these brave Indian fighters and commanders who gave their lives in that historic fight. We honor their memory as you mark today Indian Army Day. We are proud of our present, of our resilient democracies. Our people are free to say what they want, do what they want, believe what they want and these values and our diversity are not a source of our weakness but the source of our strength. Evidence of this abounds in India where you hear a symphony of dozens of languages and dialects and where Jews, and you mentioned this yesterday Prime Minister, you mentioned the fact that makes India stand out in the community of nations because over 2,000 years the Jews of India have never experienced anti-Semitism as our people experienced in so many other lands. This is a tribute to your civilization, to your tolerance, to your humanity.
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'Shalom, Namaste': Netanyahu visit highlights diversity of India's Jews
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PM Netanyahu in Shanghai
Visits high-tech industrial park, meets with Israeli and Chinese businesspeople
07 May 2013
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, met on Monday evening (6 May 2013), in Shanghai, with dozens of Israeli businesspeople who represent companies that operate in Shanghai in order to consider ways to increase bilateral trade. The Israeli company representatives expressed great appreciation for the Prime Minister's efforts to increase trade with China and noted the great importance of government support to doing business in China.
Prime Minister Netanyahu said, "I represent you before the Chinese government. I want to hear from you what I need to tell them in order to help you. I know that the Chinese ascribe great importance to government backing for business and I intend to give you this backing. We must make the national effort to enter Chinese markets and to create partnerships. In addition to your private initiatives, we need to create a government track with the Chinese."
At the start of the meeting, Prime Minister Netanyahu said that he was pleased to be in Shanghai, to view its great successes and to gain a glimpse of its future. He noted that the Jewish People and the residents of Shanghai have a special relationship and added that the former would always be grateful for the refuge that was granted to Jews who fled the holocaust.
Prime Minister Netanyahu said that China is not only one of the few countries untainted by anti-Semitism but has supported the Jews. He added that he believes that there is mutual appreciation between the Jewish and Chinese peoples, both of whom have ancient roots and have succeeded in harnessing their knowledge for future benefit. He commended Shanghai for embodying this partnership in the best way possible.
Jews remain a small minority in China, but unlike Jewish communities in many other parts of the world, Jews have historically lived in China without any instances of antisemitism from the Han majority populace contributing to mutual respect and admiration between the two peoples. Modern Han Chinese have developed a favorable view of Jews, admiring them for their contributions to humanity, their ability to survive, the sharing of Chinese values such as family, frugality, hard work and education, and being products of ancient civilizations have been an impetus towards the long and enduring friendship between the Chinese and Jewish peoples. With the intrinsic affinity that the Chinese people feel for the Jews, relations between the two communities have been mutually close, harmonious and friendly, due to shared common cultural similarities between the two peoples which has resulted in Jews enjoying equal rights and coexisting peacefully alongside the mainstream Han Chinese populace with instances of Jews assimilating into the Han Chinese community through intermarriage. Shared affinities and similar cultural commonalities has not only been an impetus for the close bonds between China and Israel but has also created a symbol of brotherhood between the two communities.
A March 27 2018 article on ALL attacks on Christians in 2017 India
Remember that India is a nation of 1.4 billion people (28 times the size of EACH of the nations like France, Italy, United Kingdom, etc.)
India's Christians fault Hindu PM for rising climate of persecution
By Jason Overdorf — Special to The Washington Times - - Tuesday, March 27, 2018
NEW DELHI — Religious clashes in the troubled northern Indian state of Jamma and Kashmir are nothing new, but the riot that broke in January targeted an unexpected group: Christians.
While most of the state’s problems pit an Islamist separatist movement against India’s Hindu majority, Christianity was at the heart of the violence this time as a mob of thousands interrupted a burial ceremony to seize the body of the deceased for a Hindu cremation.
Local Christians and international religious rights groups say anti-Christian incidents are on the rise, particularly since Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party assumed power in 2014. They contend that the government’s failure to censure local leaders for inflammatory rhetoric and sectarian persecution has encouraged a culture of impunity for anti-minority violence — a charge the BJP denies.
The Evangelical Fellowship of India documented some 350 cases of violence and other forms of persecution against Christians last year. That is more than double the rate compared with the 140 annually before the BJP assumed power and the highest level of violence since an anti-Christian pogrom that resulted in dozens of rapes and killings and the burning of hundreds of churches in the state of Odisha in 2008, said EFI Executive Director Vijayesh Lal.