Immigrants good for me and you? Bad? How to make a good answer that is accurate?

A few socialistic programs built on top of a capitalist economy is not a "successfully socialized country" and in any case, yes, it doesn't work. As Shapire lays it out it has unseen effects that add up to econimic disaster that always brings in a right-wing government to try to straighten it out. I find that very interesting.

No, of course they don't honestly advocate it, they use socialistic euphemisms to cover the fact that they simply DO rob the rich.... and the middle class.

What *I* have trouble understanding is how anyone could impute the advocacy of theft to Jesus.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Not if it's for legitimate governmental uses such as public works, but in the hands of a socialist government robbery is exactly what it is.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Roman Empire wasn't a welfare state. They built a lot of their famous Roman roads and famous aqueducts as I recall, and they paid their armies and other public servants, and did other legitimate public works with the taxes.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes dear, Socialism 101 there, redistribution of wealth, from each according to ability to each according to need. That's what socialism is, helping the poor by robbing the ones with money.

Oh it matters a great great deal since a welfare state is a state that commits theft, which taxation for legitimate purposes is not.

It's true, He simply said pay your taxes, and all of us have to do that no matter what without asking what they are for. But just as a matter of fact the welfare state operates on theft and there's no way Jesus approves of theft, He advocates giving, period.

Well, you really are addicted to the euphemisms. Hey, Ben Shapiro is good on socialism, and there's lots of his stuff at YouTube.

Of course not, that's the word that is hidden under all the euphemisms.

And Jesus criticizes them while praising the lady who gave the two mites. What's your point?. They GIVE, they are not FORCED to give.And yes, the welfare state is based on theft.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I've been enjoying Ben Shapiro's talks and he points out all kinds of negative effects from the socialist programs in those capitalistic countries, that always lead to having to elect a rightwing government to straighten out them mess. But as long as the programs exist the mess keeps getting generated.

I know this stuff is really really hard for the leftist brain, in a way that all the green leafies just can't cure, but 1) the Roman Empire was not a welfare state so He didn't have to address that problem, and 2) although I believe we should pay our taxes in any case it's because it won't cure the problem of theft not to, and 3) it IS theft and Jesus advocates voluntary giving for helping the poor, and 4) the way to cure government theft is education about what socialism is. Beforfe all the quasi socialist countries either collapse or go totalitarian communist.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Let's see: "Idiot" in Leftspeak refers to people who know what they are talking about when it comes to socialism.

Gosh that's clever. Right, we'll just sit tight until the quasi-socialistic economies collapse. Actually I could make a case for refusing to pay such taxes on the basis that they are theft, and maybe it will come to that.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.