It works as long as the socialistic part doesn't get too big...
Interestingly enough, that's how I'd describe the role of leafy green vegetables in a healthy diet. People who don't eat them tend to get ill. People who fetishize them and eat nothing else also get sick.
A balanced diet, OTOH, requires a bit of thought. Did you read post 167? Do you understand how a mixed economy works? Do you understand that virtually no one advocates total state control of the economy? Have you noticed how quickly self-described conservatives wet their Depends when it is proposed to end a government program that affects them?
When you throw around the word socialism, you are committing the basic semantic fallacy of addressing the word instead of the thing. I understand the motivation. It saves you having to think. Next time someone proposes a program or policy, try looking at the thing itself, rather than throwing a though-stopping label at it.
You are, in essence, screaming "My hippie cousin tried to live on an all carrot diet and died so vegetables are bad."
Shapiro is saying "Well sure people eat salad, but they only get away with it because they eat other stuff too." Well no shit, Sherlock. Ever consider trying to look at a variety of diets, quantify their balance of inputs, and apply it to your own situation? Oh yeah, I forgot, that's the real and tedious work of the thousands of people who actually do it, and doesn't make for a quick buck on the "here today, gone tomorrow" monetized celeb circuit.
If I recall, Jesus never advocated robbing anyone. I was always taught that the Lord loves a cheerful giver and that one should give willingly rather than being forced.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
It's really, really strange that people that call themselve ‘Christians' admire people and vote for economic systems that are the exact opposite of what Jesus's teachings would tell them. I’ll never understand that.
You don't have to, because it's not true. Jesus' advocates generous cheerful giving, and hands-on help for those who need it, He certainly doesn't advocate robbing the rich (or really, the middle class) to take care of the poor.
Or, in other words, successfully socialized countries aren't really socialized because socialism doesn't work. Gosh, I wonder what's really under that kilt....
A few socialistic programs built on top of a capitalist economy is not a "successfully socialized country" and in any case, yes, it doesn't work. As Shapire lays it out it has unseen effects that add up to econimic disaster that always brings in a right-wing government to try to straighten it out. I find that very interesting.
That's just a stupid inflammatory word that Faith used. Jesus did advocate paying your taxes and that's how the money is transferred from rich to poor.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Roman Empire wasn't a welfare state. They built a lot of their famous Roman roads and famous aqueducts as I recall, and they paid their armies and other public servants, and did other legitimate public works with the taxes.