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Message 37 of 762 (838804)
08-28-2018 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by jar
08-20-2018 4:50 PM


Re: What the world is really is irrelevant.
jar writes:
What major conflicts are we in now?
The US is at war with: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and Niger.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 43 of 762 (838838)
08-29-2018 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by caffeine
08-28-2018 3:34 PM


Re: What the world is really is irrelevant.
caffeine writes:
WIth regards to Niger and Iraq, do you even know where these countries are?
Yes.
caffeine writes:
I'm at a total loss as to how the US could be currently considered to be at war with either.
Nevertheless.
caffeine writes:
. If having soldiers there is enough, are you also at war with Germany?
No.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 44 of 762 (838839)
08-29-2018 11:12 AM
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08-28-2018 4:06 PM


Re: What the world is really is irrelevant.
Hi Jar.
jar writes:
But can any of those be called major conflicts?
I guess it is a relative term. They are major enough for the white house to release this report for funding war to Congress:
Report on the Legal and Policy Frameworks Guiding the United States’ Military Force and Related National Security Operations,
Officially we are at war in the seven countries mentioned according to the unclassified portions of the report that the NY Times got ahold of. I feel it is important we do not forget that. So minor as they may seem.....Lest we forget.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 45 of 762 (838840)
08-29-2018 11:15 AM
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08-28-2018 6:35 PM


Re: What the world is really is irrelevant.
Hi Taq,
Taq writes:
There isn't anything really approaching these numbers right now.
Of course your right, thankfully.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 48 of 762 (838893)
08-29-2018 4:41 PM
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08-29-2018 1:52 PM


Re: What the world is really is irrelevant.
And yet here you are not making use of it.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 49 of 762 (838895)
08-29-2018 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by jar
08-29-2018 12:28 PM


Re: What the world is really is irrelevant.
Hi jar,
The US unfortunately has expanded it's ridiculous war on terror.
PUBLIC LAW 107—243OCT. 16, 2002
AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY
FORCE AGAINST IRAQ RESOLUTION OF 2002
VerDate 11-
And the
The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Pub. L. 107-40, codified at 115 Stat. 224 and passed as S.J.Res. 23 by the United States Congress on September 14, 2001
Here is a interesting Slate article:
Fifteen years after the start of the Iraq war, the U.S. is at war in at least seven countries.
Unless we change it the war on terror is anywhere the US says it is against anywhere the US says it is.
And yes that is really bad and need to be changed.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 68 of 762 (862967)
09-17-2019 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by jar
09-04-2018 6:30 PM


Re: A Couple Clarifications
jar writes:
Nonsense. The challenge is to stop the madness that is current Conservatism and Neo-Fascism and spend our wealth on improving the general quality of life.
Here here Jar!
quote:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
John Kenneth Galbraith

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 179 of 762 (863299)
09-24-2019 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by AZPaul3
09-24-2019 8:34 AM


Re: Why is it always the Environment versus the Economy?
Hi AZPaul3,
AZPaul3 writes:
Our children will most probably live under dictatorships in a destroyed world.
I hope not. If Dump has done anything he has shown our flaws. No American president has ever shit on our constitution and justice system to the extent that he seems to excel at. It is new territory that our new future leaders will hopefully be able to remedy in shoring up our democracy against such things. The GOP has gone completely off the reservation in their support for such a tyrant. Standing by and letting this corruption continue is inexcusable.
I have faith in our country, this too shall pass and we will all be smarter and stronger once we as Americans are free of this flock of buzzards. My only hope is that the people that need to be punished will be. Just wait and see what happens when these shit stains are asked, once Trump is gone, what did you do during the war? The real squirming will begin.
I see hope, I see young people becoming aware! Good for them they seem to realize our problems will not be solved by kicking the can yet again down the road.
That time has passed.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 180 of 762 (863301)
09-24-2019 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by Faith
09-24-2019 9:27 AM


Re: Why is it always the Environment versus the Economy?
Hi Faith,
Try and for once stop conflating all these problems in a Us vs Them.
Our problems will not be solved by the continued polarization of our team vs their team.
The "Left" is not wanting to destroy the economy.
The "Left" does not want to put people out of work.
We are all people who want the same things, prosperity, freedom and safety.
There will always be selfish people who want more than they can ever spend and do what ever it takes to insure the laws and protections are in place to keep them enriched. It is that simple.
So just know if these rich people get away with what they want they will be living in a Dome eating lab grown caviar being served chilled synthetic champagne by robots. All the while the world burns. Once there is no more water or people to till the land what use will money be?

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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