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Faith 
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Message 139 of 1677 (839598)
09-10-2018 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Percy
09-10-2018 7:22 PM


So to you I wouldn't qualify because what, I've called you all idiots at times?
Salvation is forgiveness of sins by the blood of Christ, that's how a person is saved, by His grace alone and nothing we could possibly do to merit it.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 141 of 1677 (839602)
09-10-2018 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Percy
09-10-2018 8:54 PM


Goodness is what should be rewarded, not believing the "right" things.
Nobody has any goodness except God Himself...
Mark 10:18 writes:
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
...that's why we need to be saved. When we are saved HIS goodness/righteousness is imputed to us, otherwise we couldn't be saved. We are clothed in His righteousness, and after we are saved we do try to obey Him, as I have done since I became a believer. None of us ever does it perfectly and I am sure I do it less well than a lot of others, but that's why I am grateful that my own efforts don't save me, HE saves me, and when I see my sins I confess them and repent of them and He forgives me over and over and over.
ABE: In short, we ARE saved for our goodness, but it is the goodness that comes from Him in which He has clothed us when we put our trust in Him.
I do suspect, however, that your idea of goodness is not God's idea of goodness.
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Faith 
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Message 143 of 1677 (839607)
09-11-2018 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Tangle
09-11-2018 3:04 AM


Yes, well I said I might be wrong.
As for the portents,I still see them as portents of its being close though I've given up on the Rosh Hashanah timing. I really don't think such a collection of impressions could just be the result of my looking for them. Some of them are awfully precise. Do you think you could come up with such a collection on a theme of your choice? How common are escape or evacuation themes found? See how many you can find just going about your daily life. How about end times allusions in general?
And I got a couple more portents this morning already. From the radio. The first thing on the Bible reading program was Deuteronomy 32 from the point where Moses' song starts describing the punishments that will follow the disobedience of God's people, and it sounds a lot like the Day of the LORD or Great Tribulation: I will bring disasters upon you etc.
Deuteronomy 32:21-23 writes:
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them....
The following program was a sermon from Luke 17:20 which is parallel to Matthew 24 where Jesus teaches about His Second Coming. How often do you suppose that theme comes up in a normal series of preaching through a book of the Bible? Why did it just happen to come up this morning? I listen sporadically at best to preaching programs unless there's a subject that particularly interests me.
The emphasis in both these cases was on the tribulation to be suffered by the unbelievers. Which reminds me that although it's very disappointing to me that the Rapture hasn't occurred, for unbelievers it is a reprieve from the judgment that is to follow when it does happen. It's an opportunity to repent and be saved. I know that isn't going to happen with you unfortunately but that is really how it should be thought of. If the Rapture occurs it's a great blessing for me, but not for those left behind.
As for the portents, I'll just keep them in mind and note others as they occur and figure it's still coming soon though when is going to be the big surprise scripture says it will be.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 146 of 1677 (839618)
09-11-2018 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Percy
09-11-2018 10:35 AM


This idea that it is "good people" who should be saved is the NONChristian idea that the whole world has that Christ came to CORRECT. There ARE no "good people." That is point number one. Nobody can live up to God's standards. And the idea that we can be saved by being good is what is called "works-righteousness," which is specifically condemned in the New Testament. This is what Martin Luther and the other Reformers rediscovered after it had been buried in the superstitions of the Roman Church for centuries. God saves us, and He saves sinners. Jesus said He came not to save the righteous but sinners. Repentant sinners of course, sinners who own their sin and repent of it.
It's unfortunately very common for people to say when asked if they expect to go to heaven that they think they are good people so they do expect to go to heaven, but this is exactly wrong. "For you have been saved by grace, not works, lest any man should boast."
But you have a false parody of being saved by faith anyway. Faith is not just empty belief, it is being changed, born again, to follow Christ.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 148 of 1677 (839621)
09-11-2018 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by PaulK
09-11-2018 1:23 PM


I can only leave it to God to judge that.

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Message 150 of 1677 (839623)
09-11-2018 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by PaulK
09-11-2018 1:45 PM


I find your extreme hatred of me incomprehensible but again I can only leave it to God.

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Faith 
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Message 152 of 1677 (839625)
09-11-2018 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by PaulK
09-11-2018 1:53 PM


You lie. But I pray for you as I would pray for my enemies. You are the enemy who seethes with hatred toward me. Your every word is attempted murder.
Anyone who talks to a person on a forum the way you do should be severely punished, but you won't be will you?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 161 of 1677 (839634)
09-11-2018 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by PaulK
09-11-2018 2:14 PM


Because I dare to criticise you ?
Nobody has a right on a message board to criticize another person. That's against the rules. Argue the topic.

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Faith 
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Message 162 of 1677 (839635)
09-11-2018 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by Percy
09-11-2018 2:49 PM


From what can be observed here, the Christ you're following doesn't seem much interested in goodness, but more in xenophobia, homophobia, suffering, inequality and intolerance. Are you sure you have an accurate read on how Christ wants you to conduct your life?
Perfect litany of Political Correctness. You misrepresent everything I've said of course. Pretty clear though that the end times are upon us when people talk like this.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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Faith 
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Message 163 of 1677 (839636)
09-11-2018 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Phat
09-11-2018 2:18 PM


This is a message board, Phat, there are supposed to be rules about how we engage with one another. PaulK deserves a week's suspension.

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Faith 
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Message 164 of 1677 (839637)
09-11-2018 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by Tangle
09-11-2018 4:29 PM


I'm not reading that. How about you do the experiment I suggested?

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Faith 
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Message 165 of 1677 (839638)
09-11-2018 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Phat
09-11-2018 2:12 PM


Re: Salvation By Grace Through Faith Leads To Works
I think what Faith is saying is that she believes that her behavior and actions wont sentence her.
My "badness" consists almost entirely of running afoul of Political Correctness, which is not God's law but a human concoction designed to oppress and suppress Christianity in particular but everyone under the rule of the global government that is coming.

He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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Faith 
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Message 166 of 1677 (839639)
09-11-2018 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by PaulK
09-11-2018 2:35 PM


Re: Salvation By Grace Through Faith Leads To Works
is a fact that Faith frequently makes false claims, without excuse. It is a fact that she loves lurid accusations made against those she hates - regardless of the evidence (that’s why she likes Alex Jones, Ann Coulter and Chiniquy to name three obvious examples). It is a fact that she happily employs double standards when they are convenient to her.
Here it is evident that I'm "bad" for holding a different political point of view. And this is the usual personal attack that is against the rules that is being ignored instead of punished. No I don't do that in spite of your unevidenced assertion that I do.

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Faith 
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Message 167 of 1677 (839640)
09-11-2018 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by PaulK
09-11-2018 2:35 PM


Re: Salvation By Grace Through Faith Leads To Works
You are making wild nasty assertions without even a shred of evidence. You should be banned for them in any case, but where's your evidence? Quote me.

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Faith 
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Message 168 of 1677 (839641)
09-11-2018 6:47 PM


Well I think the Brits have gone to bed, it's almost midnight there, not sure where Phat went, Percy may be at dinner. Oh well, this place IS devoted to Political Correctness so how could I possibly expect anything else anyway?

  
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