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Message 169 of 1677 (839642)
09-11-2018 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by PaulK
09-11-2018 2:35 PM


Re: Salvation By Grace Through Faith Leads To Works
This is really cute. I characterize the way PaulK is smearing me and that gets called making false accusations. Hey, deal with what PaulK said.

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Message 170 of 1677 (839643)
09-11-2018 7:11 PM


The Coming Pagan Utopia
Back to the radio book reading program where this is the book being read right now. He's been reading a chapter by Janet Mefford, who is new to me but well worth getting to know. Her chapter is mostly about the UN and global aspirations to suppress national sovereignty etc etc etc. .
Just wanted to put in a plug. I can't afford books right now but this one is high on my list and Mefford will probably become one of my go-to sites.
(BE: Speaking of books, I do read more these days because I had cataract surgery a few weeks ago, which has improved my close-up vision. The macular degeneration continues to interfere but with the cataracts gone images are much sharper in the near range even if the MD distorts them.)
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Message 171 of 1677 (839646)
09-11-2018 9:33 PM


End Times Conspiracies and LIes
Here's a radio show by Chris Pinto on the planned destruction of western civilization, meaning really Christianity, through immigration.
Another sign of the end times.

  
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Message 173 of 1677 (839649)
09-11-2018 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by GDR
09-11-2018 9:51 PM


Re: We Can Work It Out?
It is about faith in the concept of sacrificial love and then living our lives based on that faith.
No, saving faith is faith in THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, not in any mere concept.
You've got "judge not" all wrong as so many people do. There are many places in scripture that should show your version of it is wrong if you read any of it. John 7:24 for instance says we are to judge RIGHTLY. That's the point, not that we aren't to judge but we are not to judge falsely and loosely as so many people do, and really we aren't to judge the sins of other people in particular because we are all sinners. Sin should be dealt with in private, as one friend to another, or in the congregation, it is none of our business to judge other people otherwise. Unless we're talking about crimes but that is another matter. But there are plenty of things we ARE to judge. Scripture says "Don't you know we are to judge angels?" That being the case we are charged with judging justly and fairly. Doctrinal concerns are certainly to be judged, false doctrine is to be exposed. Ignoring it would just let it proliferate and destroy people and churches. And you happen to be full of false doctrine, which needs judging and correction beyond my own abilities.
Faith is certainly not about mere intellectual assent, it certainly is not, it's a whole new frame of reference based on faith in CHRIST. In Christ's death on the cross for us, in Christ's resurrection and ascension for us.
Sacrificial love is wonderful, but if it isn't done in the will and power of God through the Holy Spirit it is nothing but fleshly delusion, and you really need to learn this for the sake of your immortal soul.
abe: THE FIRST THING you need to learn about sacrificial love is that CHRIST"S SACRIFICIAL LOVE took Him to death on the cross to save us, but this magnificent expression of sacrificial love you trivialize and denigrate as if believing in it were some kind of evil, and you think your own paltry personal version of sacrificial love is an improvement on His. And you say all this in tones of superior sanctity while denigrating the Son of God Himself. /abe
Yes faith is recognized by works, but if you've got the wrong idea about what works are acceptable to God you've missed the whole point.
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Message 180 of 1677 (839661)
09-12-2018 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by Tangle
09-12-2018 2:02 AM


Another one: the Bible reading program was at Joshua 6:22 when I turned it on, describing how the Israelites brought Rahab and her family out of Jericho before destroying it.
You can't be thinking about the actual phenomena going on here in trying to reduce it to ordinary confirmation bias.
By the way I've started thinking of these things as much more personal messages to me than before: leave this world and its toys behind, this world that is doomed to destruction anyway, and come seek Me with all your heart. I'd already realized that if the Rapture didn't happen that's the direction I should go in anyway. The whole experience, wondering if I was really ready, am I an "overcomer" or not and so on, woke me up to the need for a more serious pursuit of God. So despite the disappointment it's probably a good thing it didn't happen yet.
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Message 182 of 1677 (839668)
09-12-2018 4:21 PM
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09-12-2018 3:56 PM


The precision of the happenstance makes it more than confirmation bias.

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Message 185 of 1677 (839695)
09-13-2018 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Percy
09-13-2018 9:53 AM


You misrepresent everything I've said of course.
I don't think so. Isn't it true that you're against immigration, against LGBT rights, against affordable health care for everyone, against racial equality, and against anyone different from yourself?
No. Perfect misrepresentation, perfect political correctness. Pack of pernicious PC lies.
I'm against illegal uncontrolled immigration, I'm against gay marriage not against general rights for gays, I'm absolutely in favor of racial equality, what an idiotic accusation to say I'm not, and I'm against Omamacare because of what I've been told about its costs and its policies. You've simply ignored everything I've laboriously argued on all these subjects, of course, because that's what Political Correctness does.
And you will continue to misrepresent and smear me because that's what Political Correctness does.
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Message 186 of 1677 (839696)
09-13-2018 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Percy
09-13-2018 9:53 AM


Oh the end times are definitely upon us whether the Rapture timing is off or not. The Rapture will come eventually, but the signs of the end times have been proliferating for decades, actually speeding up in recent years. Those signs point mostly to the condition of the world that will prevail after the Rapture, totalitarian tyranny on a global scale, then God's Wrath.

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Message 188 of 1677 (839698)
09-13-2018 1:51 PM
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09-13-2018 1:39 PM


Illegal immigration is my concern in relation to the US at the moment. But that quote relates mostly to what is going on in Europe, and it may be that they are crazy enough to legally invite suicide.
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Message 190 of 1677 (839700)
09-13-2018 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by PaulK
09-13-2018 1:58 PM


If I thought we'd legally support immigration policies that would clearly destroy our culture then I'd oppose that too.
Interesting how people who are concerned about such things as preserving our culture, which includes our Constitution, are now the target of accusations of such PC epithets as "Islamophobia" and so on. Actually we SHOULD be afraid of Islam. The sad thing is that people deny that it is a totalitarian power-hungry ideology that won't stop until it's subjugated the entire world.
I think I also mentioned Janet Mefford who wrote a chapter for the book "The Coming Pagan Utopia" and she might be the source of that quote. But it could be Pinto. They are both heroes in the battle to save western civilization in my view. Where is the conspiracy coming from? Well, the UN is one source. Mefford talked about one UN policy that would greatly aid the Islamic Caliphate.
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Message 192 of 1677 (839703)
09-13-2018 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by PaulK
09-13-2018 2:18 PM


Religious freedom under our Constitution is for people who live here, it isn't an invitation to others to come here and destroy our culture. It is a twisted perversion you are promoting, which is in fact right in line with the global conspiracy to kill western civilization. I desperately care about a lot of people who are going to be subjected to the Islamic tyranny if thinking like yours prevails. I'm not talking about Christians by the way, but ordinary simple people just going about their lives without a clue to what the powers-that-be are brewing up against them.

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Message 198 of 1677 (839714)
09-13-2018 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Aussie
09-13-2018 5:00 PM


Re: Salvation By Grace Through Faith Leads To Works
Like PaulK and like jar you just sling a lot of vicious accusations and offer no evidence.
The Rapture will come eventually.
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Message 199 of 1677 (839715)
09-13-2018 6:25 PM
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09-13-2018 4:34 PM


Like PaulK and like jar you just sling a lot of vicious accusations and offer no evidence.

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Message 201 of 1677 (839723)
09-13-2018 7:53 PM
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09-13-2018 7:04 PM


Re: Salvation By Grace Through Faith Leads To Works
Oh it will come.

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Message 203 of 1677 (839727)
09-14-2018 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by PaulK
09-14-2018 12:14 AM


Re: Salvation By Grace Through Faith Leads To Works
What I don't get is how you can say such things against me and get away with it. and even get Aussie defending you.
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