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jar
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Message 1322 of 1748 (839514)
09-09-2018 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1321 by Phat
09-09-2018 12:06 PM


Re: Back to the End Times
Phat writes:
Am I making up your positions to add to my fantasy?
Yes, yes you are.
Phat writes:
So where do you get your idea of who God actually is? The Nicene Creed? Your beloved late Mama? Joe Wood?
Did the idea not originate within you?
I have said repeatedly that I cannot say who GOD actually is, beyond almost certainly not anything I can imagine. And no, the idea did not originate within me, rather it is a conclusion based on input and evidence for an unknown number of people and sources.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
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From: Texas!!
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Message 1336 of 1748 (839540)
09-10-2018 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1331 by jaywill
09-10-2018 2:14 AM


Re: Back to the End Times
jaywill writes:
I would like you to apply your axiom to this lecture to see if any of your views on moon landings are affected. Maybe you have some essentially religious beliefs about the claims of scientists at NASA. Maybe you piously preserve some modern superstitions.
Has Man Ever Set Foot on the Moon?
Yet another of your posts demonstrating your utter ignorance of reality.
Not only has man set foot on the moon, man has placed tools on the moon that have been in use since 1962. They are the several different components of the Lunar Laser Ranging experiment; arrays of mirrors placed in various points during three different Apollo missions and two different Lunokhod missions. They are used to reflect laser pulses from the Earth and so their precise locations are known. The time it takes for the return pulses gives very precise measurements of the distance between the origin site and the moons surface.
That man has set foot on the moon is not a belief but rather a conclusion based on the overwhelming evidence available to anyone who is not willfully ignorant or utterly dishonest.
AbE:
And of course, just another example of you trying to palm the pea, con the rubes, change the subject, move the goal posts and attempting to misdirect the audiences attention in the vain hope they will not notice you have failed to address any of the issues pointed out in your nonsense.
Edited by jar, : see AbE.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1339 of 1748 (839547)
09-10-2018 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1338 by jaywill
09-10-2018 8:26 AM


Re: Back to the End Times
There was no lecture, there was only a carny midway snake oil sales pitch.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1342 of 1748 (839578)
09-10-2018 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1340 by jaywill
09-10-2018 4:27 PM


Re: Back to the End Times
jaywill writes:
There was enough anomalies and inconsistencies about photographers to keep professional movie makers and photographers searching for explanations.
There were enough fools willing to pay to see the movies so they created a carny sideshow.
jaywill writes:
And the discussion on the Van Allen Radiation Belts was not snake oil talk.
Of course it is, just like all your attempted marketing of the dogma of your cult is snake oil.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1346 of 1748 (839594)
09-10-2018 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1343 by jaywill
09-10-2018 4:50 PM


Re: Back to the End Times
I did not watch the silly video and do not watch silly videos.
Nor do any of those issues have jack shit to do with either the topic (something you seem unable to address) or whether or not anyone has ever gone to the moon but are great examples of the absurdity of the Cult of Ignorance.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1348 of 1748 (839645)
09-11-2018 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1347 by jaywill
09-11-2018 7:47 PM


Re: Back to the End Times
jaywill writes:
quote:
I did not watch the silly video and do not watch silly videos.
So you gave a lying impression at first that you saw it.
quote:
There was no lecture, there was only a carny midway snake oil sales pitch
You have now confirmed that YOU "snake oiled" YOUR false impression about yourself and the level of familiarity with the LECTURE.
It would have been easier to just admit up front that you didn't watch it.
It also would have been more to your integrity.
Not much of a surprise.
Padlock your head. I don't care.
Think, if you still are capable of thinking.
There is no need to watch any video that is absurd and dishonest and ignorant simply by existing.
You still just show your dishonesty and ignorance.
As I mentioned before there are mirrors placed on the moon during several different voyages to the moon. They are mirrors for a purpose, one that should be obvious to anyone capable of thinking, specifically they return a known scatter that will be different than the surface of the moon itself.
Sorry but those fools who think we did not go to the moon are simply unworthy of attention or my time.
And once again, it still has absolutely nothing to do with the topic beyond the fact that those who doubt we went to the moon are as disconnected from reality or evidence based decision making as the fools that believe there will be some rapture or that the Bible is not simply the creation of man.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1355 of 1748 (839672)
09-12-2018 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1349 by jaywill
09-12-2018 9:21 AM


Re: Back to the End Times
The mirrors exist. They are where they are supposed to be. The appeared there when they were supposed to appear. They are a fact.
They mirrors alone are sufficiently conclusive evidence to justify simply laughing at anyone who claims man did not go to the moon.
And it still has absolutely nothing to do with the topic except for the fact it is yet another conclusive piece of evidence that you are incapable of making evidence based or reality based decisions.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1356 of 1748 (839673)
09-12-2018 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1351 by Phat
09-12-2018 11:47 AM


Re: Back to the End Times
Phat writes:
How many stories have they tried to market? Can you believe that reality suggests that we all are humans and at the end of the day on the same page? OR...is there a group at the top globally who desires to control the masses for "their own good" and who classifies information in order to gain the money and the power to further their own interests?
What does the evidence show Phat and what the hell does any of that have to do with the topic?

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1358 of 1748 (839679)
09-12-2018 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1357 by jaywill
09-12-2018 7:11 PM


Re: Back to the End Times
jaywill writes:
Explain SOUNDS in the Vacuum of space on the moon.
And I do not mean just the hammering.
Explain the helmet microphone picking up the SOUND of a tossed piece of equipment landing where there was no air.
If you're too scared to watch the whole thing, start your viewing at around 42:40.
There is no need or reason for me to even consider those questions because I am not a member of the Christian Cult of Ignorance, Dishonesty and Deception. They are irrelevant to thge issue of whether or not men went to the moon.
Sorry but I am not as willfully ignorant as you seem to be.
The mirrors exist.
The mirrors are on the moon.
The mirrors appeared on the moon at the time of the specific flights.
There is no explanation of how the mirrors got on the moon in those specific locations except that humans put them there at those specific times.
The issue is settled. Man went to the moon not just once but repeatedly.
And it still has absolutely nothing to do with the topic except for the fact it is yet another conclusive piece of evidence that you are incapable of making evidence based or reality based decisions and so you must resort to carny tricks and snake oil spiels.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1365 of 1748 (839733)
09-14-2018 5:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1359 by Phat
09-13-2018 8:07 AM


Re: Basic Forum Decency
Phat writes:
You evidently trust the government but mistrust the Biblical Christians.
No Phat, I trust conclusions based on evidence and distrust conclusions based on fantasy.
And it still has absolutely nothing to do with the topic except for the fact it is yet another conclusive piece of evidence that you like jaywill are incapable of making evidence-based or reality-based decisions and so you must resort to carny tricks and snake oil spiels.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1367 of 1748 (839797)
09-16-2018 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1366 by jaywill
09-16-2018 8:09 AM


Re: Basic Forum Decency
jaywill writes:
The difference between me and you is that I admit that I could be deceived. You think you could never be deceived.
Bullshit jaywill, You really need to stop saying stupid stuff. I KNOW I can be deceived and that the most likely source of deception is myself and so look for actual evidence and reality.
And all you stupid space comments are also still simply stupid comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic and are just more evidence of your carny midway spiel.
Won't work.
The FACT is the mirrors exist, exist where they should be, first appeared when the flight they were scheduled to be on happened.
Done deal. Only fools and con men question the fact mankind went to the moon.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1375 of 1748 (839848)
09-17-2018 6:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1368 by Phat
09-16-2018 11:35 AM


Re: Basic Forum Decency
Phat writes:
Is there any chance that reality itself could be deceptive?
What does that even mean?
And you do understand that even reality should get tested? That is what Science and Rationality are based on.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1392 of 1748 (839910)
09-18-2018 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1376 by jaywill
09-17-2018 7:12 AM


Re: Basic Forum Decency
And it still has no bearing on reality or the fact that man went to the moon, or the topic of this thread. It's just more of your attempts to palm the pea, con the rubes, sell your snake oil, move the goal posts and change the subject.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


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Message 1395 of 1748 (839930)
09-19-2018 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1393 by Faith
09-18-2018 11:04 PM


Re: Basic Forum Decency
Sorry Faith but facts are facts and thems the facts I posted.
jaywill's posts still have no bearing on reality or the fact that man went to the moon, or the topic of the thread and are just more of his attempts to palm the pea, con the rubes, sell his snake oil, move the goal posts and change the subject.
There is nothing indecent about pointing out the facts, truth and reality.

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jar
Member (Idle past 393 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 1397 of 1748 (839938)
09-19-2018 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1396 by Phat
09-19-2018 10:37 AM


Re: Basic Forum Decency
Phat writes:
We do often change the subject because we seek to frame the issue one way while you insist on framing it another.
Again, I continue to frame the issue based on what the actual evidence shows. Whether man walked on the moon or not has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity and the End Times beyond showing that jaywill is as incapable of actually dealing with reality when it comes to moon stuff as with what the Bible actually says.
And the fact remains that ALL End Times Prophecy is still simply failed prophecy.

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