Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith

Times past? You can't compare God's judgments with human transgressions that DESERVE God's judgments.But I guess you don't see any problems that deserve God's judgments so we don't need to worry, right? Fifty years of abortion with fifty million dead babies, naaa. Oh right legalizing witchcraft is just about ten witches anyway etc etc.So let's all relax, no judgment is coming.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Remember when God called Jonah to preach to the Ninevites that judgment was coming? He even mentioned that there were I forget how many children who didn't yet "know their left hand from their right" as a case for sparing them; To convince Jonah to preach repentance so He might not have to bring that destruction on them for the sake of those young children. The babies are part of the tribe, there is no way to spare them separately, and it is a punishment to the tribe to do away with their children. The incident described in Psalm 137 by the way is about how the Babylonians had slaughtered the babies of the Israelites so this is vengeance.In any case none of that has anything to do with our day when once-Christian nations had eradicated abortion and other evils and are now bringing them back in a full-fledged pagan revival against God's laws. And I ask again: how long do you think He'll put off judgment for what I've listed?

As I've pointed out many times, there is always a time lag between offense and judgment. It was some four hundred years before the "fullness of time" was reached for the judgment on Canaan. It was hundreds of years of Israel's transgressions before the Babylonian exile and the carrying away of the northern tribes by Assyria. Sin usually has to accumulate to a certain level before God sends judgment.Our sin of slavery wasn't punished until the Civil War. If anything fifty years isn't long enough, but our sins have accumulated quite rapidly in recent years so I think that means judgment IS very close.As a matter of fact we're already under judgment, just not the full brunt of it yet. 9/11 was God's judgment, and the destructive hurricanes over the last decades should also be counted as judgment. I consider the threat of Islam breathing down our necks to be judgment waiting in the wings. Illegal immigration could be counted as judgment.Which means also that the ascendancy of Leftist politics is itself judgment. The sins that I listed are the result of Leftist politics anyway, so there's a lot of judgment brewing if you understand the times.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You are of course right, it's possible the Rapture won't come in my lifetime, as I acknowledged from the beginning anyway.

Do you really not understand how God's Providence works?Also, plenty of free will in the political situation I described, don't see how you think it's lacking.

That may be the correct interpretation, that nobody will know at the time either, but sometimes the context has the people who are not watching as the ones who are surprised by His coming, while those watching are ready for Him and able to read the signs well enough to know the time. That's what I've been going by, but you could be right and there is never any point of trying to pin down the time.Certainly we will be able to get very close to it though.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I really can't make a lot of sense out of what you are saying. Repent of the sins I've listed, that's the only thing we could do. And there's not much hope, barring a great revival, that that is going to happen. Why are you talking about "radio preachers?" I don't listen to "radio preachers." My local station carries the sermons of preachers from churches around the nation and the world; they aren't "radio preachers." But I haven't even mentioned these as a source of anything I've said. I've known we're under judgment for decades and my source is lots and lots of preachers and the Bible itself.Yes, judgment is inevitable since repentance is not likely. Serious prayer by enough Christians might change that I suppose.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Your standards are leftist Political Correctness, not God's standards. (I know you say you are not a liberal/leftist but anyone who thinks the way you are thinking is a leftist to that extent and it's a large extent.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I deny that there is any intolerance or hate or vengefulness in anything I've said. You have come under the influence of leftist thinking, that's all. Leftists impute motives to people that aren't there, it's a very low form of political thought, the lowest.You mischaracterized my evidence by leaving out the fact that the timing was the important part, not just the content. I can't ignore the timing of the messages, but I can try to see them in a different context, such as pertaining to me personally.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

My actions are measured against God's commands, AND GOD IS THE ULTIMATE HUMANIST. You have accepted a leftist definition of good will to humanity, it is NOT really good will to humanity, it's a leftist PC distortion. To support killing the unborn as a woman's right is a really twisted distortion of good will to humanity. To play into the fantasies of homosexuality by the travesty of pretending they can marry in any meaningful sense is a ridiculous distortion of marriage and a flat-out denial of reality. Liberals/leftists live in a purely emotion-driven La La Land where you just make it all up to fit your fantasies.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't claim to have "displayed" tolerance to anyone, I'm arguing a political point, period, but YOU are reading a LACK of tolerance into that political point that is not there. I do not think it is a blessing to humanity in any sense whatever to deny the realities that have to be denied in order to support leftist fantasies.I feel for all the people you list. I feel for Muslims for being the pawns of an evil ideology, I feel for LGBT people who must suffer a lot because of their inclinations. I simply do not think the solution is to let Muslims live where they are probably going to produce jihadists and threaten the other citizens, or mangle the meaning of marriage or any other social norm to support an unreality.I was wrong about Rosh Hashanah, but not necessarily wrong about the Rapture's being close. That remains to be seen. Nevertheless i'm taking it all more as a personal message to me anyway.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm doing what I KNOW it's telling me, which is what it also told those bakery people and the florist and the photographer. We all got the same message out of it. And we obey it BECAUSE we have faith in it as God's truth. Faith is believing IN something, in God Himself, and in what has been revealed by God about Himself, an objective basis for faith. And believing in it all because you are convinced it is the TRUTH. It's all positive, it isn't believing against common sense or against anything else, it's believing because you believe positively that it is the truth. And having faith in it all means you know it is all real, completely real and true, which is why you obey it, obey God. This notion that faith is some leap in the dark belief you hold against common sense was made up by liberal Christianity. Like Unitarians and that bunch who know zip about the reality of God. What you are calling goodness is in fact evil according to God. There is no kindness in leading women to kill their babies, or indulging LGBTs in living a lie and making everybody else accept the lie as if it's truth.The only real joy there is comes from knowing God. And there is no love like God's. I can't think of the word for this .. something like sanctimonious bluster maybe. You are simply continuing to argue from made-up emotional speculation the way leftists do. Blubbery sentimentality, hot air.What do you mean "my way" anyway? I'm just trying to be obedient to God. The joys of biblical belief that far surpass such puff and whistling in the dark are sadly out of your reach.I guess you figure if you turn the tables and preach your dogma at me we're even or something?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I didn't answer this, it didn't make any sense to me. I guess you mean my Rapture prediction failed? But scripture doesn't say when it is going to occur, only that we should be aware of its nearness.I added the idea myself that it could occur on Rosh Hashanah for the reasons I gave, but I can't invest faith in my own thoughts the way I do in the Bible. That personal prediction failed but it has nothing to do with the biblical prediction that there WILL eventually be a Rapture of the Church, meaning all those believers who are watching for Him to appear.No, my beliefs didn't fail, we are still to watch and wait for the Rapture, and it still COULD be very close, just not as close as Rosh Hashanah was.

It's cruel the way refusing to give a blind man a license to drive a car is cruel. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

As I said, it DOESN'T all have the same biblical basis. The Rapture is biblical and will eventually happen, while any given timing proposed for it may or may not be correct and does not affect the prophecy itself. As I said.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.