Christianity and the End Times

At best, you could argue that CCoI members often have a disconnect from reality and are gullible in regards to conspiracy tales and what you would call made up religion...but I find no evidence that jaywill or any of us palm any pea nor con any rube. We do often change the subject because we seek to frame the issue one way while you insist on framing it another. You market Christianity the way you feel it should be and we market it the way we feel it should be.I swear that you sometimes sound like a broken record!Let's drop this moon hoax stuff and get back to the end times as marketed. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Again, I continue to frame the issue based on what the actual evidence shows. Whether man walked on the moon or not has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity and the End Times beyond showing that jaywill is as incapable of actually dealing with reality when it comes to moon stuff as with what the Bible actually says.And the fact remains that ALL End Times Prophecy is still simply failed prophecy.

Sometimes it's hard to tell the con-men from the rubes. The con-man's greatest asset is the rube who truly believes.

The aren't screaming about it, because it was a conspiracy between top US leaders, to soviet leader and top Chinese leader. Your reasoning just proves the conspiracy.(Just joking, of course. But you know that's what the conspiracy theorists will say).

It's even worse than that. They are being controlled by the Lizard People. Didn't you know? And Alex Jones is their leader! Noooooooooooooooooo!!!

Well, Alex does look pretty good in that pic, at least.

And the explanation for the recorded sounds - Apollo 12,16 - ( which are not typically present in the ISS astronaut's activity ) is found WHERE in this reply ?Nice broad generalizing strokes there for your blanket dismissal.
But I didn't notice your addressing the specific problem.

And your specific solution for the problem of the recorded sounds which are NOT typically present on the ISS is ___________________________ ?

And your specific solution for the problem of recorded sounds on the moon walks in Apollo (which sounds are not present in videos of tool usage on the ISS) is _________________________ ?

And aside from this generalize dismissal YOUR explanation for the recorded sounds on the two Apollo Moon walks ....IS ________________ ? Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

The microphones in the space suits don't seem to pick up tool usage by astronauts on the ISS.So your explanation for the recorded SOUNDS on the Apollo moon walks is that __________________ ??? Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Ironically, you seem to be the only poster attempting to deal with the problem.Thanks for trying.
Of course the problem remains that on the ISS we hear nothing.
The circumstances should be exactly the same - space vacuum.Remember - I said that I don't think we are being told everything.Feel free to renew some matter about the second coming of Christ with me, for the thread.I will continue to spot check among all the calm voices of reason and logic here WHY sounds were heard on the Moon .

My take on it is this:

My friend works on spacecraft. He is literally there when the launches occur, and he knows the ins and outs of the mechanics and logistics of any and all equipment. He basically reassured me that there is no hoax...he argues with flat-earthers all the time and is amazed at the cognitive dissonance and similarities between various conspiracy theorists. I may talk him into making a post here in this thread...but one explanation that I think is relevant to this discussion is what we are initially told about the video and the lack of sound...keep in mind that whoever is asserting a conspiracy is telling us what the video shows and what it must mean. We have no reason otherwise to even doubt these events.

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There is absolutely no explanation needed since as has been explained to you it is irrelevant to the fact that mankind has been to the surface of the moon or to the topic itself.

It would be nice to be able to put this to rest without much more hassle but now I'm curious. I've never doubted the moon landings or the whole space program, but just for the sake of the mental exercise could someone try to explain why there is sound on the moon video but not on the space station?I listened to the earlier video jaywill posted in Message 1366 where they mention the interpretation I came up with about the sound being transmitted through the space suit, and dismiss it. All the scientists here ought to be able to come up with an explanation for this apparent discrepancy even if it is annoying because they don't have any reason to doubt the space program.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.