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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There is absolutely no explanation needed since as has been explained to you it is irrelevant to the fact that mankind has been to the surface of the moon or to the topic itself.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I think of salvation as regeneration of the spirit we lost at the Fall, never thought in terms of a literal sowing of the divine nature into us. But there is no Fall in the Bible and what is in the Bible is God saying that eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge made man more like God; just like the serpent said it would.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, that states a totally unsupported assertion by Paul. It does not support a Fall at all. Nor is there any evidence in the rest of the Bible to support his assertion.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But death did not enter the world because of Adam. That's just another perversion of what the Bible story in Genesis 2&3 actually says.
Death existed in the world or creating the Tree of Life what just another dishonest and stupid action of the God character in the story.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
jaywill writes: Besides I gave you opportunity to show us you could say something of a better more meaningful world view to the Bible concerning the meaning of man in the universe. There is no new or unique world view or grand purpose in the Bible and you only ask such silly questions as another way of avoiding dealing with the fact that you cannot address the thread topic no matter which thread is involved. That is a classic carny conman trick and also the trait of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Dishonesty. The topic is Christianity and the End Times. The reality is that ALL and EVERY Biblical End Times Prophecy has failed.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But there is nothing in the Bible that talks about any ultimate goal that is unique or new to Christianity.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: jar has a weird outlook on all of this. He has even claimed that Jesus is (so far) a failed Messiah. Nevermind the actual motive for preaching such crap. What is the evidence that Jesus is not a failed (Jewish) messiah? Edited by jar, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But what do any of those things even mean?
And what is unique to Christianity?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You are just posting the Dogma of your Cult jaywill and yet more unsupported assertions and meaningless drivel.
jaywill writes: Second of all that Christ said He would build His church and that the gates of Hades would not prevail against it, is a fulfilled prophecy of over 2,000 years now. LOL That is just utter nonsense jaywill, with absolutely no meaning whatsoever.
jaywill writes: Third, the reemergence of the nation of ISRAEL surely caused many students of prophecy to take notice. I would say the very existence of ISRAEL as a nation is indicative of the reliability of God's prophetic words. Yes, you would say that but again, that is simply at best an example of self fulfilled prophecy and so more a conjob than any real prophesy.
jaywill writes: Another fulfilled prophecy - Daniel said . The last two hundred years of the exponential growth of technology and science, I think is fulfullment of Daniel's prophecy that "knowledge [science] will encrease" (Daniel 12:4) And that again is just you rewriting the Bible and trying to turn a truism into something significant. It's YOU adding to the Bible, a classic Apologist conjob. All you have is the classic dishonesty of taking proof texts out of context and adding dogma instead of accepting what is written.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: If you have no idea what those things mean I'm certainly not going to be able to help you with that. If you can't explain what they mean then they can't be of much value or use.
Faith writes: As for what is unique to Christianity all of it is. That's a nice assertion but only another totally unsupported assertion.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
jaywill writes: As one who rejects Christ and whose name is not recorded in the book of life at the last judgment, the Bible is unique in predicting that your ultimate yet negative goal will be something called the lake of fire. Too funny. And where is your evidence that I reject Christ or that my name is not recorded? Again, you are just trying to con the rubes and showing your ignorance jaywill.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You added the utter nonsense in brackets, like substituting science (a concept foreign to any of the authors of the Bible stories) for knowledge.
In fact the vast majority of the content of the Bible you market is stuff that is added to try to make the Bible fit the dogma of your cult. And again, this is still just another example of you trying to con the rubes, move the goal posts, change the subject and avoid dealing with the topic.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
jaywill writes: And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15) The humorous part is you thinking you have a clue what might be in such a book if it existed and your continued attempts to just market the dogma of your cult rather than addressing the topic. I don't think Revelation is a lie, just that it is all simply failed prophecy that refers to events the author expected to occur almost 1900 years ago.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Editorial is adding, imposing YOUR meaning on what is actually written.
And it still is just another example of you trying to palm the pea, change the subject, con the rubes and move the goal posts.
jaywill writes: Events that have not YET occurred as prophesied is not an example of the book's "failed prophecy". LOL Of course they are failed prophecy until such time as they do happen. Your denials are just more evidence that you have no touch with reality. Edited by jar, : Add rebuttal of the attempt to deny reality
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I know it didn't say what you think it says because Jesus couldn't make a mistake like that. That's all I need to know. Therefore it is to be understood some other way. Either it refers to the Jews as a whole as "this generation" or it refers to the generation at the time of the prophecy's fulfillment. I have no problem because I know who Jesus is and whatever He says is true. We are to read the Bible in the light of all its parts and revelations and Jesus is infallible. Period. So once again you prove that you place your human wisdom above what the Bible actually says, yet claim to be a "Biblical" Christian. You place Dogma above facts and reality yet again.
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