Christianity and the End Times

You don't read the Bible. You write your own.

He did no wrong as a SINLESS PERFECT MAN, not as God.Yuck, I can't take any more of this right now. Blech.

We're talking about His life as a human here on earth. The examples I gave would be considered wrong if He was any other human. He can't use the get-out-of-sin-free card just because He's wearing His Son hat.

The fig tree couldn’t offer fruit because it wasn’t the right time of the year. Why get angry at the tree for that ? It’s not the tree’s fault.

The main explanation given for why Jesus would have expected fruit on the fig tree even though it wasn't the right season is that fruit appears before the leaves on those trees and they saw the leaves from a distance.But I don't care what the explanation is. If everybody here has to keep finding fault go ahead and keep finding fault, it's your loss. I know the Bible is God's word, and I know Jesus is never unrighteously angry and never does anything wrong, so I know it makes sense even if I don't understand how, and there are many things I won't understand simply because I'm not personally familiar with the culture and the times. Nevertheless good teachers include that information in their preaching so one learns a lot of it anyway.But trusting what it says is the only right way for a believer to read it, based on knowing it is God's word. The amazing, I mean amazing, glorious, beauty and truth that unfold from it when you simply trust it is something unbelievers will never know, and I feel sorry for you but less sorry as time goes by and you all continue to prefer your nitpickery to God's truth. As I said, it's your loss.And I know from painful experience here that it doesn't matter what good information I provide on any subject it will be trashed and do you no good anyway.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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The main explanation given for why Jesus would have expected fruit on the fig tree even though it wasn't the right season is that fruit appears before the leaves on those trees and they saw the leaves from a distance.

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Figs don’t have fruit before late May, so that is highly implausible.Even if it was true it wouldn’t be a reason to blame the tree.

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But I don't care what the explanation is. If everybody here has to keep finding fault go ahead and keep finding fault, it's your loss. I know the Bible is God's word, and I know Jesus is never unrighteously angry and never does anything wrong, so I know it makes sense even if I don't understand how, and there are many things I won't understand simply because I'm not personally familiar with the culture and the times. Nevertheless good teachers include that information in their preaching so one learns a lot of it anyway.

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Well you just go on following your false teachers and rejecting the Bible in favour of your own opinions since you like it so much. That’s nobody’s loss but yours.

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And I know from painful experience here that it doesn't matter what good information I provide on any subject it will be trashed and do you no good anyway.

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Falsehoods do not qualify as good information no matter how much you like them.

"Blaming the tree" was just a teaching method.Yes I will go on believing the truth and feeling sorry for those who refuse to believe it.

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"Blaming the tree" was just a teaching method

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A pretty destructive teaching method. Especially when the problem was his own unrealistic expectations.

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Yes I will go on believing the truth and feeling sorry for those who refuse to believe it.

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You complain because your assertions are shown to be false, and then you boast about believing the truth.

Self-deception is glorious I can see that. You're living your own magnificent dream. The tricky thing for me to understand is why you're here watching us pick it apart bit by bit. After all, at some point we might wake you up.

You Brits make me sad when I remember the great Christian leaders you once produced. I've listed them before but when I hear all this debunkery of what they taught and believed I want to list them all again. For all I know you haven't even heard of half of them, but as I was becoming a Christian I read a lot of them or at least read their biographies.John Wycliffe
William Tyndale
The King James Bible translators, all of them immense scholars and Christians
John Newton
William Cowper
George Herbert
William Wilberforce
John Owen
Thomas Boston and a dozen other great Puritan teachers
John Wesley
Charles Wesley
George Whitefield
J C Ryle
Martyn Lloyd Jones
John Bunyan
John Gill
Hudson Taylor
William CareyJust a few off the top of my head. Others will come to me I'm sure
abe: Cromwell
Latimer
Ridley
Cranmer
Gladys Aylward
Amy Carmichael
John Knox
Charles Spurgeon How did I forget him?
/abeJust a bunch suffering from glorious self deception according to you I guess.Of course you've also got
Charles Darwin
Aldous Huxley
Bertrand Russell
A bunch of nonChristian poets
The Beatles
The Rolling StonesEdited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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And I have said that if you want to do that, you open another thread called 'the meaning of man in the universe' - not in this thread or in the bible forums. That's how it works.

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The way it works with me is talk about Christ's second coming here which is very much related to the climax of human history and the meaning of life.If you can't see that Christ's second coming is so related to the meaning of man's creation and history's culmination, you're short sighted and need to be enlightened.And don't look now, but you preach too - your anti-Christian dogmas.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

So once again you prove that you place your human wisdom above what the Bible actually says, yet claim to be a "Biblical" Christian.You place Dogma above facts and reality yet again.

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Self-deception is glorious I can see that.

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assertion - preaching.

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You're living your own magnificent dream.

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preaching - assertion - proclamation.

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The tricky thing for me to understand is why you're here watching us pick it apart bit by bit. After all, at some point we might wake you up.

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More preaching and calling to others to change their ways.
Proclamation of dogmatic pronouncements with self congratulations.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Sure there are more. For example taking the money from the group to use for oils for his hair instead of giving it to the needy and using the excuse that he won't be with them long. Having to be prompted and coerced by his mother to make the beer run at the wedding party. Letting a woman wash his feet and dry them with her hair; the kind of thing you might expect from il Donald. Scaring the shit out of Peter just to make a point.But the biggest point is that unless Jesus was totally human his message really has little meaning or application to humans.

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