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Phat
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Message 36 of 54 (840281)
09-26-2018 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by ringo
09-26-2018 1:38 PM


Re: What LNA Believes (about religions). I believe we should have a chance to "know God"
I've never really disagreed with your message...I've just added that the messenger is an integral part of it. You disagree and think that the people are beholden to each other. I believe that this is not enough. You insist that it is all that we have, since you see no evidence that a messenger exists or is anything more than an envelope (or Matthew 25) so we continue to disagree. Glad we can discuss these things, though. The peanut gallery has already gone through 5 full bags and wants more.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Phat
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Message 38 of 54 (840284)
09-26-2018 1:50 PM
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09-26-2018 1:45 PM


Re: What LNA Believes (about religions). I believe we should have a chance to "know God"
But you know he isn't. In real life you would never make such a silly claim.
So are you basically accusing me of lying to myself and others by insisting that the messenger is alive and important? That I really deep down agree with you that there is no evidence of a messenger? If so, you are wrong. If I am lying I am unaware of it. Dont stir up cognitive dissonance when there need not be any.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Phat
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Message 43 of 54 (840296)
09-26-2018 2:39 PM
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09-26-2018 2:09 PM


Re: What LNA Believes (about religions). I believe we should have a chance to "know God"
If so, why did you choose to become an Eisenhower Republican? Is there something about socialism that you disagree with?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Phat
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Message 45 of 54 (840298)
09-26-2018 2:43 PM
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09-26-2018 2:16 PM


Re: What LNA Believes (about religions). I believe we should have a chance to "know God"
She basically means that a BELIEVER allows their heart to be changed whereas an unbeliever sees no need to fix what ain't broke..(according to their own logic)

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Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Phat
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Message 51 of 54 (840430)
09-29-2018 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by LamarkNewAge
09-29-2018 12:19 PM


Learning From Opponents
LNA writes:

One side demands that everything be seen as the exact same thing, due to the relationship. Skeptics and unbelievers seem to offer a more evolutionary view of Christology, I suppose.(...)I just don't feel like the European Christians of today have a good grasp of what these early Christian communities taught.
A European New Testament should be seen as something a follower of Jesus should reject (not embrace).

Arguments involving opposing or contradictory views are by-and-large more educational than arguments among those of similar beliefs and philosophies.

I recently watched a great clip from Matt Dillahunty, respected atheist spokesman:
Mailbag Aug 18

I learn more from my opponents than I do from Pastors and Christian teachers.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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