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Author | Topic: Falsifying a young Universe. (re: Supernova 1987A) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
quote: You were wrong. It would only tell us things if time and space were the same at all points. Distances to stars (via parallax for example) cannot be attained unless the space and time used in the base line here were the same all the way to the star That is NOT known. Most of what you think the light tells us is all based on a false premise.
quote: Wrong. We do not know how big or far away anything is out there beyond the fishbowl. So what gravity exited there is unknown. What bends light is not known. Just because something bends light here in our time and space does not mean that is the only thing that does in the universe. The observations we have here are IN our time, so how could they not be consistent with theories based on time here?
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Atoms and cells and molecules may be beautiful to some folks. Looking at some lights in the sky that are of unknown origin and distance and size and in unknown time and space is not knowledge.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
That is where science is.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Man knows a lot about this fishbowl we live in. Too bad he hasn't been anywhere else huh?
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
I agree. The fact that science is ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth is deep.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Playing the pesky wabbit role is no substitute for making some clear and reasoned point.
Your job is to show time is the same in far space as here, not to just be aware of how time works here.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
This is a science thread and the claim made by science as science are what need to be vehemently supported. I could support my dates six ways from Sunday, but what the issue is here, is your dates that you thought were science.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Mentioning fables is not vehemently supporting them. The basis for them was shown, and you must deal with it or lose.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Man does see beyond the fishbowl. But it is pure fantasy to interpret all he sees here strictly by fishbowl rules...and that is what science does.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Voyager is not even one light day away!!! Yet you make claims for billions of light years away!!!!!!!!?
The bible makes more sense if your old age models and stellar evolution stuff is wrong. Since you cannot prove what time is like in the far universe you are defeated.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
What you see here in the fishbowl is what you see. It is real...here. If time were not the same that would wreak bloody havok on your models though. Of course.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
My side will win.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Science doesn't know. It doesn't so much as know there is any change!!!!!!!
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Science doesn't know.
In my belief set, God created it and set it up.
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creation Member (Idle past 1942 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. My argument is that you have no idea what is beyond your street...yet are selling a map of the universe.
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