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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
You said, "We define it as infinite or unending." Doesn't "we" include you? I did not define anything, I gave the dictionary definition. And the dictionary defines eternity as infinite or unending time. I thought you said that time doesn't exist. But clearly you don't see the irony. I was making a joke about trying to define something that is, "by definition", indefinite.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
What does that have to do with what I said? Actually God used the Hebrew words that said I exist that I exist.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ICANT Member (Idle past 283 days) Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: What does that have to do with what I said? Didn't you ask about God's use of words? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member (Idle past 283 days) Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: I thought you said that time doesn't exist. That is correct. Time does not exist. There is existence. There are events that take place in that existence. There is existence between those events. The duration of that existence is what we measure with our concept of time. Since you have time confused with existence I don't expect you to understand what I have said. You want to take time and measure time with it. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
I asked what God has to do with our definitions of words. Didn't you ask about God's use of words?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
Existence is not a thing; it's a property of things. Like red is not a thing. You can't have a big bag of red. Red might be a property of what's in the bag but red itself is not a thing. And you can not have a bag of existence. What you have in the bag may or may not have the property of existence - it may or may not exist - but you can't say it "is" existence.
There is existence. There are events that take place in that existence. ICANT writes:
Since you have existence confused with things that exist, I don't expect you to make any sense.
Since you have time confused with existence I don't expect you to understand what I have said. ICANT writes:
Well, that's how we measure anything. We measure distance with distance, comparing an unknown distance - e.g. the length of a two-by-four - with a known distance - e.g. the length of a yardstick. We measure an unknown time with a known time - e.g. the period of a pendulum's swing. You want to take time and measure time with it.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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creation Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
You cannot say duration (the way time exists and is woven with space) is the same everywhere in the universe, sorry. Prove it.
As for your claim there is no time..ha. I don't think you know what time is, and cannot wave it away as being merely a construct of the mind of man. How long does it take for a squirrel to cross a road or a bird to migrate? Time is not a figment or creation of our mind it is real.
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creation Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Speak for yourself when you say 'we' define....not everyone accepts your religious definition attempts.
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creation Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Whatever some Hebrews may have thought to try and envision what God said about the universe is of no great import.
There was water out beyond where the stars are. That water came via some sort of window of heaven to earth, many feel. God's science is so far above man's it is ridiculous.
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creation Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
If Adam were to have split an atom, it would have likely involved more than current science is aware of.
The way God's voice works on atoms and makes them behave, is beyond manscience. How the spiritual interacts with atoms is not known by science. How atoms may interact with the spiritual and some different time and space and whatever else we don't know about that may be out there, science doesn't know. In the origin issues debate we must ask...what the heck DO they know!?
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
I'm only speaking for those of "us" who do. If you want to make up your own definitions, "we" can't stop you, but don' t expect to be taken seriously either. Speak for yourself when you say 'we' define....not everyone accepts your religious definition attempts.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Taq Member Posts: 10302 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
ICANT writes: Time is a concept of mankind to measure the duration between events in eternity. It is based on the duration of the earth making 1 complete revolution in relation to the sun. Mankind divided the duration of that revolution into 24 hours, each hour, divided into 60 minutes and each minute into 60 seconds etc.. "The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom."International System of Units from NIST You are simply wrong on this point. You also have the problem of entropy. If time didn't exist then entropy would not exist. If entropy doesn't exist then biochemistry stops working. According to your own claims you shouldn't be alive right now.
I did not say anything about decay. The periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 does not keep in perfect sync with the rotation of the earth. It is close but not perfect and that is the reason for leap seconds. Atomic clocks are not kept in sync with anything. They tick at a specific rate because of the most basic physical laws, not because the Earth has a specific rotational velocity.
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
The creationists say it is, so you can argue with them. Whatever some Hebrews may have thought to try and envision what God said about the universe is of no great import.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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creation writes:
So far, you haven't demonstrated that you know anything. Pick a topic and stick to it. In the origin issues debate we must ask...what the heck DO they know!?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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creation Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
How about creation? That is the topic after all. I am telling you that science cannot begin to cover it. Yet they make belligerent origin claims. That is criminally insane.
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