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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Faith writes: I want to tell what I know to be the truth and have it accepted just because I'm honest and it IS the truth. That's it. Yup, that's it. Your problem is that to the rest of us you're total loony tunes. 6,000 year old earth? Adam and Eve are real? The flood happened? Everything in the bible is literally true? That's all stark, staring bonkers. You're 'truth' is pure delusion. So, no, your 'truths' are not going to ever be accepted because they're demonstrably not true. And you know that.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yup, it's all true, and it all came as a big surprise to me too.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Faith writes: Yup, it's all true, and it all came as a big surprise to me too. It's your own personal delusion just like your rapture. That's why you're frustrated trying to convince anyone else. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, the hints and clues I based the when on were purely personal impressions. The Bible's testimony is something else.
Who says I'm "more" convinced than ever? I had recently come to believe in the Pre Trib Rapture. I still believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm not so much "frustrated trying to convince others" as I am frustrated at the antichristian heresies that I keep being asked to treat seriously. As I believe I said.
Oh and frustrated at the kind of nonsense you just posted too, since it's very clear that the Bible is the source of the items you called loony but the rapture timing was based on my own personal experiences. Do try to be fair occasionally. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's really very wrong of you to impute motives to a person, oh author of the EvC Rules. I came to the conclusion that the email I saw was strange enough to suggest it wasn't really about pizza. I don't remember anything about "cheese pizza" at all. And the more you accuse me the less interested I am in pursuing the subject which I concluded years ago was "strange enough to suggest it wasn't really about pizza." Period.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Tangle,to Faith writes:
6,000 year old earth? Adam and Eve are real? The flood happened? Everything in the bible is literally true?Faith writes:
When I "got saved" I too became a total believer, but not so much in a literal Bible as a literal interactive and loving God. In order for me to believe that a global flood happened despite much evidence to the contrary, I would have to believe that literally millions of scientific minds were tricked. And that to me is unlikely. After all, if I believe that any human mind can be tricked, why not my own, right?
Yup, it's all true, and it all came as a big surprise to me too.What Is Confirmation Bias? In addition, many arguments that were made caught my intuition as having validity...even if I didnt totally agree with the overall conclusions. I even consider your basic argument advocating the idea that this all is quite logically made up. Calvin & Hobbes Tangle writes: I would only comment that not everything is demonstrable. That's all stark, staring bonkers. You're 'truth' is pure delusion. So, no, your 'truths' are not going to ever be accepted because they're demonstrably not true.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Faith writes: I'm not so much "frustrated trying to convince others" as I am frustrated at the antichristian heresies that I keep being asked to treat seriously. As I believe I said. That just too bad, if the words didn't exist, it would not be possible to point them out to you. And, by-the-way, it's not anti-Christian to point them out, it's only anti-Faith.
Oh and frustrated at the kind of nonsense you just posted too, since it's very clear that the Bible is the source of the items you called loony but the rapture timing was based on my own personal experiences. Do try to be fair occasionally. It's fair to point out that your thinking on all matters concerning your belief is demonstrably in error.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You are really off the wall. There is such a thing as antichristian heresies and they have been argued against my Christian claims. Again, do try to be fair once in a while.
All you've done is ridicule things that don't suit your modern prejudices, you have not shown that anything I've said is "demonstrably in error." Funny how irrational secularists can be and get away with it just cuz they subscribe to the popular view.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
In order for me to believe that a global flood happened despite much evidence to the contrary, There isn't really any evidence to the contrary, only interpretations of the evidence to the contrary.
I would have to believe that literally millions of scientific minds were tricked. And that to me is unlikely. After all, if I believe that any human mind can be tricked, why not my own, right? There is no trickery, the problem is that the obvious evidence for the Flood got wrongly interpreted because of the accumulation of false ideas about the age of the earth.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: You got angry because caffeine pointed out that there were many ideas about Jesus in the early centuries. Whether it is because you want that fact suppressed (and you clearly do) or because caffeine caught you in an error I cannot say. And it is certainly true that you will say things that you ought to know are false. Like your recent claim that you had witness evidence for the virgin birth. For an honest person you do seem to say a lot of things that aren’t true.
quote: You mean that you want everyone to agree with your opinions whether they are true or not. It doesn’t matter how strongly you believe something - it can still be false. That is where debate comes in. And if you lose you get angry again because you vcan’t admit that your belief is not true.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You got angry because caffeine pointed out that there were many ideas about Jesus in the early centuries. Whether it is because you want that fact suppressed (and you clearly do) or because caffeine caught you in an error I cannot say. I told the exact truth. I get frustrated and impatient with people referring to long-discredited heresies as if they carry any weight today. "Many ideas about Jesus in the early centuries" all got soundly trounced by the great men of the Church whose names have been honored ever since. I get frustrated at being asked to reinvent the wheel by unbelievers who have no clue about anything do with the truths of Christianity. Or truth about anything in these discussions for that matter. Such as yourself. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Well you assume they were trounced. Nevertheless those ideas did exist and were even written down. Some different ideas, like the different genealogies remained in the texts chosen as canon.
quote: You aren’t. You are getting angry at people pointing out the fact that those different ideas existed.
quote: By which you mean people who dare to tell truths you don’t like. The truth is that you are irrational and deeply prejudiced and these faults cripple your ability to debate. You don’t like that but it is a truth you make very, very obvious.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
See you don't understand anything. There are no different genealogies.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
One way that has been descriptive of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil is that before the awareness there was literally only One Truth and after the awareness, there were many truths...none distinguishable for the other. Faith sees this, yet insists that One Truth is True and the rest are imitations. You look for truth by comparing many varieties. She insists that she has found and knows the truth and that nobody seems to care. You insist that since she cannot prove her case you (and others) remain unconvinced.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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