Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith

Possibilities are Hanukkah, Christmas, Purim and February 3rd, 25th and May 14th. Or anything before or after or in between.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That's like the old joke about the teacher who graded papers by throwing them down the stairs.

It won’t happen. Try, if possible, to enjoy your life safe in the knowledge that this won’t be something any of us need to concern ourselves preparing for or worrying about in any way. Free yourself.

It won't be any of those, trust me, I have a 100% record on this stuff.

It is possible to trace a genealogy in many different ways. Some think one of them is Joseph's and the other goes through Mary's father, but there are also other interpretations. David had many sons and they could have been his descendant through many of them. If you traced your own you could pick hundreds of different paths that would all eventually get you back to Adam. Maybe one through Attila the Hun or a slave in Babylon, who knows. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Gosh, "the world" has KNOWN this for over a whole HUNDRED years. Wow. Funny you think this mere empty assertion is "demonstrable" truth, or that a hundred years means something.Surprising it is, but the earth really isn't billions of years old and Adam and Eve were certainly real. Do you really think somebody just invented all those genealogies? That's a lot weirder than the claim that it's all real, and the genealogies count to about 6000 years from Adam and Eve. That's actual evidence, which is why they are given in the Bible. God knows we need evidence and He gives us a LOT of evidence in the Bible for the reality of its various claims. And there really was a Flood and there is even extrabiblical evidence for that one: strata and fossils. Misappropriated to other explanations but in-your-face evidence to anyone who can actually see. (I also think the Earth shows that it's been through a gigantic catastrophe in many ways: it looks like monumental wreckage to me, something originally perfect broken in a million ways, land broken apart and drifting in different directions, causing the eruption of destructive hot stuff from the core of the planet, and earthquakes that knock things down, and an ice age that is now melting away and causing violent hurricanes. Poor poor fallen humanity, that we think all this is normal, that we are accidents in an accidental world. The first chapters of Genesis are SO explanatory of our actual situation.)I laughed when I learned the Earth is only 6000 years old. It's really pretty funny in the context of today's ridiculous ideas about its age.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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It is possible to trace a genealogy in many different ways.

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Maybe. But what is actually written is quite clear.

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Some think one of them is Joseph's and the other goes through Mary's father, but there are also other interpretations.

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It would be extremely unusual to write Mary’s genealogy as if it were Joseph’s. In fact, so far as I know it is unheard of. As far as other interpretations go there is absolutely no feature of either genealogy that suggests that it is anything other than a simple patrilineal genealogy. (Other than the author of Matthew missing out names to get the counts he wants)

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David had many sons and they could have been his descendant through many of them.

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Not through a patrilineal genealogy - at least part of it would have to be traced through the female line. Which wouldn’t count.

Well, a lot of it isn't patrilineal, or simply patrilineal anyway. We are often reminded of the presence of Tamar and Ruth and Rahab in Jesus' ancestry.They are named in the chart of Matthew's genealogy on this Wikipedia page.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Surprising it is, but the earth really isn't billions of years old and Adam and Eve were certainly real.

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The evidence says otherwise.

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Do you really think somebody just invented all those genealogies? That's a lot weirder than the claim that it's all real, and the genealogies count to about 6000 years from Adam and Eve.

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It’s not at all weird for humans to invent genealogies (do you really think that Julius Caesar was descended from the goddess Venus?)
It would be extremely weird for the massive amounts of evidence otherwise to be so incredibly misleading.
(If you think otherwise RAZD’s threads are there - just post your refutation)

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That's actual evidence, which is why they are given in the Bible. God knows we need evidence and He gives us a LOT of evidence in the Bible for the reality of its various claims.

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No, that really isn’t true.

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And there really was a Flood and there is even extrabiblical evidence for that one: strata and fossils.

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Which show no sign of a worldwide flood.

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Misappropriated to other explanations but in-your-face evidence to anyone who can actually see.

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Looking at the evidence to properly evaluate it is hardly misappropriating it and refusing to see the evidence is not actually seeing. In reality the order of the fossil record - and I have to say the observed order because otherwise you’ll decide I meant something else - is quite inexplicable under the assumption of a flood. As we have seen. But you ignore that.But this post is fine evidence of your irrationality and prejudice.. Thanks for proving that I spoke the truth.

Nobody could invent the particular genealogies in Genesis.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Well, a lot of it isn't patrilineal, or simply patrilineal anyway. We are often reminded of the presence of Tamar and Ruth and Rahab in Jesus' ancestry.

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Mentioning a few of the mothers doesn’t change the fact that ancestry is traced down the male line. So no, it is simply patrilineal.

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Nobody could invent the particular genealogies in Genesis.

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Making strange assertions is hardly worth it. Why can’t they be invented ?

The fossil order is just a handy rationalization. In reality there is no genetic way to get from one major life form to another, and those life forms such as trilobites that exist in a huge number of strata which supposedly represent millions of years each, in reality would have developed as normal variations over a few hundred years of microevolution. And genetic variation depletes genetic diversity over generations so evolution beyond the Kind can't happen anyway. Oh and any source of diversity such as mutation would just get gobbled up the same way and run out just the same way.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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The fossil order is just a handy rationalization.

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It is a massive fact which can’t be explained by the Flood.

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In reality there is no genetic way to get from one major life form to another, and those life forms such as trilobites that exist in a huge number of strata which supposedly represent millions of years each, in reality would have developed as normal variations over a few hundred years of microevolution. And genetic variation depletes genetic diversity over generations so evolution beyond the Kind can't happen anyway.

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Aside from the fact that this is just your nutty opinions it is completely irrelevant. The order of the fossil record is an observed fact. Evolution doesn’t enter into that argument.

The fossil order is of no use except as a rationalization for evolution and since evolution is genetically impossible the fossil order is just a useless odd fact.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.