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Faith 
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Message 462 of 1677 (841045)
10-07-2018 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 461 by PaulK
10-07-2018 1:41 PM


Re: Oh well
You got angry because caffeine pointed out that there were many ideas about Jesus in the early centuries. Whether it is because you want that fact suppressed (and you clearly do) or because caffeine caught you in an error I cannot say.
I told the exact truth. I get frustrated and impatient with people referring to long-discredited heresies as if they carry any weight today. "Many ideas about Jesus in the early centuries" all got soundly trounced by the great men of the Church whose names have been honored ever since. I get frustrated at being asked to reinvent the wheel by unbelievers who have no clue about anything do with the truths of Christianity. Or truth about anything in these discussions for that matter. Such as yourself.
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Faith 
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Message 464 of 1677 (841047)
10-07-2018 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 463 by PaulK
10-07-2018 2:02 PM


Re: Oh well
See you don't understand anything. There are no different genealogies.

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Message 466 of 1677 (841050)
10-07-2018 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 463 by PaulK
10-07-2018 2:02 PM


Re: Oh well
You must spend a lot of time dreaming up nasty things to say about me.

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Faith 
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Message 469 of 1677 (841054)
10-07-2018 2:19 PM
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10-07-2018 2:16 PM


Re: Oh well
Sorry, what I meant is that they were not meant to be the same genealogy which is what you are implying.

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Faith 
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Message 470 of 1677 (841055)
10-07-2018 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 468 by PaulK
10-07-2018 2:17 PM


Re: Oh well
You have no ability to see anything I say correctly. Zip.

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Message 474 of 1677 (841062)
10-07-2018 2:42 PM
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10-07-2018 2:33 PM


Re: Oh well
You tell a lot of lies under the label "truth."

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Faith 
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Message 476 of 1677 (841067)
10-07-2018 3:00 PM
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10-07-2018 2:44 PM


Re: Oh well
everything you say about me is a lie. You lie lie lie lie lie about me, all namecalling lies that are supposedly against the EvC rules but obviously nobody cares.

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Faith 
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Message 481 of 1677 (841078)
10-07-2018 4:00 PM
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10-07-2018 3:57 PM


Re: Predictable total misreading as usual
Possibilities are Hanukkah, Christmas, Purim and February 3rd, 25th and May 14th. Or anything before or after or in between.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 485 of 1677 (841084)
10-07-2018 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 472 by PaulK
10-07-2018 2:28 PM


Re: Oh well
It is possible to trace a genealogy in many different ways. Some think one of them is Joseph's and the other goes through Mary's father, but there are also other interpretations. David had many sons and they could have been his descendant through many of them. If you traced your own you could pick hundreds of different paths that would all eventually get you back to Adam. Maybe one through Attila the Hun or a slave in Babylon, who knows.
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Faith 
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Message 486 of 1677 (841085)
10-07-2018 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 478 by Tangle
10-07-2018 3:11 PM


Re: Oh well
Faith writes:
All you've done is ridicule things that don't suit your modern prejudices, you have not shown that anything I've said is "demonstrably in error."
The whole world knows that the earth in old, very, very old and has done for over 100 years - just to point to one of your monstrous delusions.
Gosh, "the world" has KNOWN this for over a whole HUNDRED years. Wow. Funny you think this mere empty assertion is "demonstrable" truth, or that a hundred years means something.
Surprising it is, but the earth really isn't billions of years old and Adam and Eve were certainly real. Do you really think somebody just invented all those genealogies? That's a lot weirder than the claim that it's all real, and the genealogies count to about 6000 years from Adam and Eve. That's actual evidence, which is why they are given in the Bible. God knows we need evidence and He gives us a LOT of evidence in the Bible for the reality of its various claims. And there really was a Flood and there is even extrabiblical evidence for that one: strata and fossils. Misappropriated to other explanations but in-your-face evidence to anyone who can actually see. (I also think the Earth shows that it's been through a gigantic catastrophe in many ways: it looks like monumental wreckage to me, something originally perfect broken in a million ways, land broken apart and drifting in different directions, causing the eruption of destructive hot stuff from the core of the planet, and earthquakes that knock things down, and an ice age that is now melting away and causing violent hurricanes. Poor poor fallen humanity, that we think all this is normal, that we are accidents in an accidental world. The first chapters of Genesis are SO explanatory of our actual situation.)
I laughed when I learned the Earth is only 6000 years old. It's really pretty funny in the context of today's ridiculous ideas about its age.
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Faith 
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Message 488 of 1677 (841087)
10-08-2018 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 487 by PaulK
10-08-2018 12:14 AM


Re: Oh well
Well, a lot of it isn't patrilineal, or simply patrilineal anyway. We are often reminded of the presence of Tamar and Ruth and Rahab in Jesus' ancestry.
They are named in the chart of Matthew's genealogy on this Wikipedia page.
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Faith 
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Message 490 of 1677 (841091)
10-08-2018 12:37 AM
Reply to: Message 489 by PaulK
10-08-2018 12:35 AM


Re: Oh well
Nobody could invent the particular genealogies in Genesis.
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Faith 
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Message 493 of 1677 (841095)
10-08-2018 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 489 by PaulK
10-08-2018 12:35 AM


Re: Oh well
The fossil order is just a handy rationalization. In reality there is no genetic way to get from one major life form to another, and those life forms such as trilobites that exist in a huge number of strata which supposedly represent millions of years each, in reality would have developed as normal variations over a few hundred years of microevolution. And genetic variation depletes genetic diversity over generations so evolution beyond the Kind can't happen anyway. Oh and any source of diversity such as mutation would just get gobbled up the same way and run out just the same way.
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Faith 
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Message 495 of 1677 (841097)
10-08-2018 1:01 AM
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10-08-2018 12:57 AM


Re: Oh well
The fossil order is of no use except as a rationalization for evolution and since evolution is genetically impossible the fossil order is just a useless odd fact.
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Faith 
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Message 497 of 1677 (841101)
10-08-2018 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 496 by PaulK
10-08-2018 1:06 AM


Re: Oh well
But if there is no evolution there is no order, it's just an odd illusion, so there is nothing to account for.

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