Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith

Yup, that's it.Your problem is that to the rest of us you're total loony tunes. 6,000 year old earth? Adam and Eve are real? The flood happened? Everything in the bible is literally true?That's all stark, staring bonkers. You're 'truth' is pure delusion. So, no, your 'truths' are not going to ever be accepted because they're demonstrably not true. And you know that.

It's your own personal delusion just like your rapture. That's why you're frustrated trying to convince anyone else.

That just too bad, if the words didn't exist, it would not be possible to point them out to you. And, by-the-way, it's not anti-Christian to point them out, it's only anti-Faith. It's fair to point out that your thinking on all matters concerning your belief is demonstrably in error.

The good news, Phat, is you're not saved. That's a nonsense. All that happened was that you became delusional about it. Just another addiction. Everything I mentioned was demonstrably true - 6,000 years, floods, Adam and Eve, raptures. It's possibly true that something that Faith believes might be true - or at least not demonstrably false - somewhere, but it's hard to think of anything off-hand.Not that it would make any difference. Believers just believe regardless of facts. Catholics for instance are obliged to believe that the wafer and wine of the eucharest is quite literally the body and blood of Christ. Well, it ain't. Does it change anybody's mind? Nope.

The whole world knows that the earth in old, very, very old and has done for over 100 years - just to point to one of your monstrous delusions.

It won't be any of those, trust me, I have a 100% record on this stuff.

Now Faith, you know that when I say that that the world knows that the earth is old, I mean it has knowledge that it's old, not simply believes that it's old. We can prove it and have shown you how here many times. Yes. Obviously. It does seem that there's nothing to be done about people that actually DO believe that the earth is flat, that aliens carry out anal probes on humans and that walking under ladders is unlucky. Us normals just have to live with the loons and hope they don't do any real damage.

So god engineered the murder of 3,000 people - mostly Christian - using Muslims. But saved a few for no obvious reason?What kind of warped logic is that? Just yours I guess.

It's primitive superstition and magical thinking. That's because it makes no actual sense. Why believe something that makes no sense at all? How twisted and convoluted can this get? You tell us that god is sovereign and nothing happens without him, then you tell us it's the Muslim's fault. Allahu akbar!Just plain silly.

Alternaively, Calvanism is hard to understand because it's made up, paradoxical gibberish.

It strikes me that Calvanism may be the correct interpretation of the bible in that it admits to its major contradictions and paradoxes. But it's conclusions from this analysis are wrong.Because it starts from a position of belief, it says that an evil that god does is not an evil and that god controling everything and knowing all outcomes in advance does not affect our free will.All it offers as an explanation for these contradictions is that we can't know the mind of god.Whereas if you start from a neutral position, your conclusion must be that there's something inherrantly wrong here and the most likely thing is that the contradictions and paradoxes are as a result of the document listing them - the bible - being in error. And everything we know about how the bible was constructed and by whom shouts that this is the case.If you have an unreliable narrator (the bible), an unreliable interpretor (a believer) and an unreliable media (politicised priesthoods), the likelyhood of a correct conclusion appoaches zero.

Not having the capacity to understand is not the same as knowing that something makes no sense. Might as well believe in anything at all. Which is what people the world over do. Dumb though it is.

Implying? I've been saying it here for years. That's dumb on a dozen levels. You believe nonsense because you need to believe something There is no equivalence between capitalism and god. For a start capitalism is at least real. That is just dumb Phat. People believe all sorts of crap for all sorts of reasons. But we would all be better off if they didn't.

And you do that in order to maintain a false belief. Just like you find another explanation for why Jesus didn't return within a generation after he was killed. The plain text tells you what happened. You don't like what it says, so you invent another reading of it.

Doesn't it matter to you that what you believe in is true? It doesn't matter at all if you believe it's all made up. It only matters if you don't. Well in my example, the text says that Jesus would return within the time of the generation he was speaking to. He didn't. As the core Christian believe is all about that, it's pretty critical to the belief don't you think? So GDR has to start 'interpreting' and 'putting in context' in order to maintain his belief.